Another Stutz discussion

[shocker22]

G Blair is not a center...I have heard he came here with the understanding he would not be made to play out of position...that he would be allowed to play his natural 4 position.......So at best we will have 2 true centers...GS and EO....I think JT would be better at the 4 , alongside a true center......Whether GS redshirts in a year is anybodies guess but seems unlikely to me

That's my thoughts as well. I think JT would be better off as a PF with a true C to play next to.

I think we will see alot of JT and Blair on the floor at the same time. Both playing more of a 4 role than a traditional 5.

[xazshox]

Last night's scrimmage

Was Demetric Williams at the scrimmage last night?

[SpanglerFan316]

G Blair is not a center...I have heard he came here with the understanding he would not be made to play out of position...that he would be allowed to play his natural 4 position.......So at best we will have 2 true centers...GS and EO....I think JT would be better at the 4 , alongside a true center......Whether GS redshirts in a year is anybodies guess but seems unlikely to me

That's my thoughts as well. I think JT would be better off as a PF with a true C to play next to.

I think we will see alot of JT and Blair on the floor at the same time. Both playing more of a 4 role than a traditional 5.

Until he proves it on the court, Blair = Hawkins in my mind.

[shockmonster]

JT's strengths still are when he stays closer to the basket. He can face up at times against the right person (driving ability) but a weakness of his in the past is when he forgets who he is and how he should play and wanders too far from the basket, handles the ball too much, and shoots too many perimeter shots. Additionally, when he rebounds well offensively, he scores more.

[Veritas]

Re: Another Stutz discussion

We've all heard that GS is working his butt off in the weight room this summer. He definitely needs it. We've also discussed over and over again about how he could have or could still use a redshirt year.

I think the 2 best examples of similar style players we have to compare him to are Paul Miller and Greg Dreiling (McD AA). Both of these guys had the benefit of 5 years in college, although neither took a voluntary redshirt, yet it helped their careers exponentially. In looking at Garrett's stats versus Paul and Greg's from their freshmen year, while none were fanatastic, Garrett averaged about 1/2 as many points as both Paul and Greg (4.2 versus 8.1, 7.4, respectively) and less rebounds (2.6 versus 4.1 and 4.7). On the positive side GS had more blocks his first year than PM ever had in a year.

I know they are all very different players, but at the center position, I think this just further illustrates how much it can help an undeveloped big man to have that extra year. With JT and now Blair in the middle, maybe this is the year. What does everyone else think? Would Marshall really consider this type of action to prepare us for an outstanding 2011 season?

Dreiling had the benefit of banging around with the Carr brothers while still in grade school. I'm sure playing the likes of Antoine, Henry, Valentine, Aubrey, etc while growing up helped him mature quickly.
I think Stutz will be fine. He certainly has a great work ethic and I think a lot of people will be surprised at his rapid progress.

[Dan]

If he comes in stronger and stops getting pushed around and falling down every time he draws contact I'll be happy.

[im4wsu]

If he comes in stronger and stops getting pushed around and falling down every time he draws contact I'll be happy.

Wow, a little harsh, maybe?

In ther first year (except Miller's redshirt year), here are the minutes, rebounds and points per 40 minutes:

Player .............Min.....Reb......Pts
Paul Miller.........607.....9.2.....14.7
P.J. Cousinard...715.....7.5.....11.0
Kyle Wilson.......637.....4.3..... 7.7
Xavier McDaniel.607.....6.8.....10.7
Garrett Stutz.....415.....8.4.....13.8

IMHO, there is plenty to build on and what's already been hasn't been what we hoped for, but certainly not all that bad.

[pogo]

If he comes in stronger and stops getting pushed around and falling down every time he draws contact I'll be happy.

Wow, a little harsh, maybe?

In ther first year (except Miller's redshirt year), here are the minutes, rebounds and points per 40 minutes:

Player .............Min.....Reb......Pts
Paul Miller.........607.....9.2.....14.7
P.J. Cousinard...715.....7.5.....11.0
Kyle Wilson.......637.....4.3..... 7.7
Xavier McDaniel.607.....6.8.....10.7
Garrett Stutz.....415.....8.4.....13.8

IMHO, there is plenty to build on and what's already been hasn't been what we hoped for, but certainly not all that bad.

That is a nice comparison. :good:

[The Mad Hatter]

If he comes in stronger and stops getting pushed around and falling down every time he draws contact I'll be happy.

Wow, a little harsh, maybe?

In ther first year (except Miller's redshirt year), here are the minutes, rebounds and points per 40 minutes:

Player .............Min.....Reb......Pts
Paul Miller.........607.....9.2.....14.7
P.J. Cousinard...715.....7.5.....11.0
Kyle Wilson.......637.....4.3..... 7.7
Xavier McDaniel.607.....6.8.....10.7
Garrett Stutz.....415.....8.4.....13.8

IMHO, there is plenty to build on and what's already been hasn't been what we hoped for, but certainly not all that bad.

That is a nice comparison. :good:

On a per minute basis, GS's numbers are very competitive and most of what kept his minutes down was not having the strength to establish defensive position and play D without fouling.

Think about how much Paul and Kyle improved as they got stronger and more experienced, and neither of them played here as true freshmen (expect Paul in a couple of games before the injury).

[Zardoz]

If Stutz doesn't redshirt this year I doubt if he will. I don't think he will redshirt this year as he is our only true 5. Blair came here because he felt that he was being forced to play out of position at the 5 and it even took a lot of work to get Durley to consistently post up down low. GS may even be more at home at the 4, we'll have to wait until EO gets here to see if that works out.

I think that GS will gain enough weight and strength that the opposing team will have a much harder time pushing him away from the basket. If he can maintain he position he has the skills to finish in a lot of ways.

[Overtime]

Agree with Z....I think GS will get a little better each year. He does not need to dramatically improve next year to be effective....A little stronger and a little more savy will work wonders for a 7 footer...with a good cast around him we just need a true center to be the hub...It allows everyone else to play there true positions

[wufan]

Stutz will be a very effective player at WSU before his career is over. He may never be first team all-Valley, but he will be a key component to WSU winning the Valley in 2011 and/or2012.

[Snapshot9]

Oh, I don't know. You may have very well said the same type things about Patrick O'Bryant after his freshman year, but look how much better he was his sophmore year. I think the freshman year is an adjustment year for post players, while in the sophmore year, some of their talent starts showing up more.

[lilshock]

Didnt Pat o b get drafted after hid fresh year? plus GS will be an awsome player by the time he is done here. He was a big part of our team last year and will be even a bigger part this year, poy senior year.

[RoyalShock]

Didnt Pat o b get drafted after hid fresh year? plus GS will be an awsome player by the time he is done here. He was a big part of our team last year and will be even a bigger part this year, poy senior year.

No, it was after his soph. year and largely because of a couple good games in the NCAA tournament.

He really could have used one more year in school.