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  • #16
    Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown
    Let's not dismiss RC too quickly. We have all seen his shot. He went from Sr in HS to freshman JUCO to Soph D-I in 3 years. I expect a bigger than Durley/Hatch improvement from RC next season. Let's not forget it took everyone but MB most of the season to really catch on to HCGM's system.

    If his shot is falling and he becomes more knowledgeable and experienced, he does keep KJ off the floor next year. If he doesn't, then he will be on the bench.

    My money, with MB working with him, is that he is our backup/split minutes with Hannah PG.
    The fact that Reggie is not quick defensively is against him. Clevin isn't quick defensively either, but has a better handle on it and is so much better running the team than Reggie. I believe that with KJ's length and quickness defensively, that he will take over as the back up PG next season. maybe not at the start of the season, but by mid-January, he will be getting lots of playing time and RC will get very little.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MikeShox
      Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown
      Let's not dismiss RC too quickly. We have all seen his shot. He went from Sr in HS to freshman JUCO to Soph D-I in 3 years. I expect a bigger than Durley/Hatch improvement from RC next season. Let's not forget it took everyone but MB most of the season to really catch on to HCGM's system.

      If his shot is falling and he becomes more knowledgeable and experienced, he does keep KJ off the floor next year. If he doesn't, then he will be on the bench.

      My money, with MB working with him, is that he is our backup/split minutes with Hannah PG.
      The fact that Reggie is not quick defensively is against him. Clevin isn't quick defensively either, but has a better handle on it and is so much better running the team than Reggie. I believe that with KJ's length and quickness defensively, that he will take over as the back up PG next season. maybe not at the start of the season, but by mid-January, he will be getting lots of playing time and RC will get very little.
      Lets not forget that last year Hatch was not even considered "not very quick", he was slow and got caught flat footed a lot. A full year in HCGM's system and look how much STRONGER and QUICKER he is!

      Now look at Durley! Didn't you hear MK talk about how CSU wasn't QUICK enough to stop him from driving from 15 to the basket.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ShockerGorilla
        Originally posted by ShockerFever
        I trust him handling the ball more than Clevin or Reggie.
        I wouldn't quite go there -- yet. Maybe Reggie.
        I'm with Fever.
        "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it is about the future."

        --Niels Bohr







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        • #19
          Reggie will struggle to find minutes next year.

          We don't know how good Manigault will be, but sounds like he will be good enough in Marshall's eyes to get a chance. If he isn't quite ready, Murry will play some point giving Kyles some minutes.

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          • #20
            Don't count anyone out on this team next year.

            Look at the improvements of Hatch, Durley, and Ellis.

            RC can improve, and will. He knows who he has to compete against for PT.

            There will be a lot of talent on this team next year - bad news for the Valley.

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            • #21
              I hope he does improve. But I'll be honest and tell you that I saw more potential and hope in Durley, Hatch and Ellis. Not saying there isn't any for Chamberlain, but I don't feel near as confident. And considering what we already have and what we're bringing in...
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              • #22
                If we run into true 3-guard teams - and there are plenty in the Valley, it's not unreasonable to think we might see Murry and Kyles on the floor at the same time.

                I think Marshall is trying to set up a team where he can go either tall or quick at the 3. Quick at the 3 is a plus in Valley play. Tall at the 3 is a plus in post-season play.

                Kyles figures into that ability to change very well. I think he could be an effective wing against players in the 6'3" to 6'5" range.
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                • #23
                  There are plenty of minutes for a lot of players on a good or great team and Kyle will get his share of them.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ashockalypse
                    There are plenty of minutes for a lot of players on a good or great team and Kyle will get his share of them.
                    :yes:

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                    • #25
                      My only concern with Kyles is how hungry is he for playing time. I would like to see a little more of a game face and
                      intensity from him when he is in the game. I really liked the lineup at the end of the 1st half when DK, TM, AJ, RC and JT
                      were in the game. That group can play some lock down defense and really pressure the ball all over the court.
                      I just hope DK is NOT content with 8-12 minutes a game.
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                      • #26
                        Never heard of anyone who did not want more minutes. I thought Kyles should have had more of Murry's minutes last night.

                        Physical improvement by Reggie would be terrific, as he is arguably the best shooter on the roster. I don't think anyone is trying to run him off, just suggesting that he will very likely have fewer minutes next season, and that might be unacceptable to him.

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                        • #27
                          In looking at the team poster, I think Reggie could add a little bulk to his frame and that would help. Depending on how you look at it I guess, the nice thing is that Reggie is just a sophomore and an off-season of working on his game could help him improve quite a bit.

                          The problem for him is that if Manigault is the real deal, minutes are going to be real hard to find next season.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pinstripers
                            Never heard of anyone who did not want more minutes. I thought Kyles should have had more of Murry's minutes last night.

                            Physical improvement by Reggie would be terrific, as he is arguably the best shooter on the roster. I don't think anyone is trying to run him off, just suggesting that he will very likely have fewer minutes next season, and that might be unacceptable to him.
                            Murry has got to do something about that flat shot. It has to have some air. There is little foregiveness and margin of error.
                            "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it is about the future."

                            --Niels Bohr







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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                              Originally posted by pinstripers
                              Never heard of anyone who did not want more minutes. I thought Kyles should have had more of Murry's minutes last night.

                              Physical improvement by Reggie would be terrific, as he is arguably the best shooter on the roster. I don't think anyone is trying to run him off, just suggesting that he will very likely have fewer minutes next season, and that might be unacceptable to him.
                              Murry has got to do something about that flat shot. It has to have some air. There is little foregiveness and margin of error.
                              I think the coach on Shocker Locker Room said they were going to see if they could get Toure' to tweak his shot a little to put more air under it.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Zardoz
                                Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio
                                Originally posted by pinstripers
                                Never heard of anyone who did not want more minutes. I thought Kyles should have had more of Murry's minutes last night.

                                Physical improvement by Reggie would be terrific, as he is arguably the best shooter on the roster. I don't think anyone is trying to run him off, just suggesting that he will very likely have fewer minutes next season, and that might be unacceptable to him.
                                Murry has got to do something about that flat shot. It has to have some air. There is little foregiveness and margin of error.
                                I think the coach on Shocker Locker Room said they were going to see if they could get Toure' to tweak his shot a little to put more air under it.
                                After this season is over, I hope. While Murry’s shot might not be technically perfect it is certainly dropping often enough for me this season.

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