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  • #16
    There will be a new lineup this Sunday, at least according to Marshall. I'd guess

    Hannah
    Murry
    Hatch
    Griskenas
    Durley

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    • #17
      No, Ramon will still start.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pinstripers
        No, Ramon will still start.
        Doubtful. He just isn't playing with that fire anymore and thats one of the few things hes got going for him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by shocks02
          Originally posted by pinstripers
          No, Ramon will still start.
          Doubtful. He just isn't playing with that fire anymore and thats one of the few things hes got going for him.
          I really, really doubt Ramon loses a starting role over a single flat game. That would be silly.
          Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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          • #20
            If you do really think Ramon on the bench would have this team do better in any way, you're mistaken.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kung Wu
              I really, really doubt Ramon loses a starting role over a single flat game. That would be silly.
              It hasn't been 1 flat game. In the 4 MVC games, he's scored 1, 6, 0, and 4 points.

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              • #22
                His boards tell "the rest of the story"...
                “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 1979Shocker
                  Originally posted by Kung Wu
                  I really, really doubt Ramon loses a starting role over a single flat game. That would be silly.
                  It hasn't been 1 flat game. In the 4 MVC games, he's scored 1, 6, 0, and 4 points.
                  He's been a monster on the boards in pretty much all those games though. He is the only real defensive spark, no matter how low his scoring is. When you got a guy getting more boards than most players are getting in points, it's unlikely you will see him benched.
                  Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                  • #24
                    I wouldn't necessarily call it a "benching" if it does happen. Mantas gives more scoring, good screening, and has the height to dump a pass from the high to the low post. Ramon would be more of a defensive and rebounding spark coming off the bench IMO.

                    Lineup changes occur sometimes just to get the most out of what we have; it doesn't mean someone is being punished by coming off the bench. Whatever changes there are, we are mainly STILL searching for the right combinations.

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                    • #25
                      I agree.

                      Not starting a game is one of the most overrated look-at stats in the history of sports.
                      Deuces Valley.
                      ... No really, deuces.
                      ________________
                      "Enjoy the ride."

                      - a smart man

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by 1979Shocker
                        There will be a new lineup this Sunday, at least according to Marshall. I'd guess

                        Hannah
                        Murrah
                        Hatch
                        Griskenas
                        Durley
                        you mean:
                        Hannah
                        Murrah
                        Hatchah
                        Griskensah
                        Durlah
                        For some the glass is half full and for others half empty. My glass is out of ice.
                        - said no one ever...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by shoxilla
                          you mean:
                          Hannah
                          Murrah
                          Hatchah
                          Griskensah
                          Durlah
                          Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by shoxilla
                            Originally posted by 1979Shocker
                            There will be a new lineup this Sunday, at least according to Marshall. I'd guess

                            Hannah
                            Murrah
                            Hatch
                            Griskenas
                            Durley
                            you mean:
                            Hannah
                            Murrah
                            Hatchah
                            Griskensah
                            Durlah
                            I was trying to type and think at the same time. :roll:

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                            • #29
                              Big mistake, 1979.

                              It's think, then type. ;)

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                              • #30
                                Getting back to the original post in the thread.

                                Troy Mack was a liability for 3 years, but he was all we had, so he played.

                                His 4th year, he was a threat for a double-double every night.

                                Paul Miller was called "Fifi" even into his Sr year. The criticisms of Miller were soft on D, not aggressive to the hoop, bad hands, not aggressive around the hoop.

                                If there had been another post player at WSU in Miller's So year, I doubt many fans would have been real upset if Miller left WSU "for personal reasons".

                                Miller had a pretty good Sr year.
                                The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                                We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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