K-State Wichita State series?

[shockmonster]

I won't be surprised if this happens. The timing is perfect for KSU.

WSU is senior-heavy and will likely not be a pre-season top-25 team next year (I'm just arguing the outside opinion here). Weber knows the Shocks are a bigger brand than K-State now and are in the nothing-to-lose position. WSU will have played 3 games this year against Big 12 opponents, so there won't be a negative stigma associated with scheduling us.

Our IBA game is open next year. KSU does like playing there and can't fill it up without help. But for an IBA game, the return game would be at best KC. It should not be a game in Manhattan.

[DUShock]

Anyone. Anytime. Anywhere, so long as it is home & home of course.

[WuShock16]

Our IBA game is open next year. KSU does like playing there and can't fill it up without help. But for an IBA game, the return game would be at best KC. It should not be a game in Manhattan.

K-State is playing at IBA this year against Tulsa and would likely be playing the "neutral" game in KC next season.

I still think it should be a campus series, but I agree that if the Wichita game is at Intrust, then the K-State controlled game better not be in Manhattan.

[Shock Top]

K-State is playing at IBA this year against Tulsa and would likely be playing the "neutral" game in KC next season.

I still think it should be a campus series, but I agree that if the Wichita game is at Intrust, then the K-State controlled game better not be in Manhattan.

If, K-STATE tries that, WSU simply says

[HockeyShock]

That game shouldn't be at Intrust anyway. We only play marquee games there.

I'm not even just being snarky. K-State has been a smoldering pile of nothing since their one year with Michael "Puff Puff Give" Beasley. They've just given a contract extension to the man who destroyed Illinois' basketball program and had his greatest success purposely scoring as few points as possible in Carbondale.

I shouldn't have to pay extra for that game. Remember, they were complicit in the whole "attendance center" recommendation back in the day. They should have to come into Koch Arena with about a half-dozen fans jammed into the top of section 230 and they should thank us for the privilege of getting on TV.

If they really want to stay relevant, they'd better have an entire department dedicated to figuring out how to keep Bill Snyder alive and coaching, because they're one phone call from God away from 1986 all over again.

[HockeyShock]

The arrogance just floors me. I grew up in Clay Center. Don't blow smoke up my kilt about how great a school K-State is. Most of my high school classmates went there, and that should tell you all you need to know. And as for it's basketball 'history', you can sum it up with Ro Blackman, Ski Jones, Michael Beasley, and they all pale in comparison in accomplishments to Nichole Ohlde.

[ShockTalk]

The arrogance just floors me. I grew up in Clay Center. Don't blow smoke up my kilt about how great a school K-State is. Most of my high school classmates went there, and that should tell you all you need to know. And as for it's basketball 'history', you can sum it up with Ro Blackman, Ski Jones, Michael Beasley, and they all pale in comparison in accomplishments to Nichole Ohlde.

Whoa. I couldn't have even remembered Jones off the top of my head, but would have thought of Richmond, Boozer, Kruger, Henson, and Evans. Definitely not a Mildcat fan, but did respect Jack Hartman back in the day.

[HockeyShock]

Whoa. I couldn't have even remembered Jones off the top of my head, but would have thought of Richmond, Boozer, Kruger, Henson, and Evans. Definitely not a Mildcat fan, but did respect Jack Hartman back in the day.

I missed Mitch. That's bad on my part. Good catch.

Still, I purposely didn't count Henson. The point still stands.

[martymoose]

That game shouldn't be at Intrust anyway. We only play marquee games there.

I don't really agree with that statement. Given the KSU alumni base in and around Wichita...KSU's close proximity to WSU...and the interest both fans bases would have in a game, I think that makes it maybe the most Marquee game we've played there, with exception of maybe Utah when they came in ranked a couple years ago. We've played at IBA for 7 years, over that time the average season ending RPI for the teams we've played is 58.42...KSU's RPI over that time is 54.14. While they aren't as good as Utah was, they usually aren't as bad as Tulsa, Alabama and UAB.

[HockeyShock]

I respect that marty, but I think we're at the place where that Intrust game needs to be against a team with an average RPI lower than the 50's. The Oklahoma schools, they stepped up, so I got no problems with those at IBA, but going forward, that needs to be an ESPN primetime-ready game.

Also, I'm a hard-hearted, grudge-holding sonova***** with an axe to grind against the other two D1 schools in the state. That ALWAYS has to be taken into account.

[martymoose]

I respect that marty, but I think we're at the place where that Intrust game needs to be against a team with an average RPI lower than the 50's. The Oklahoma schools, they stepped up, so I got no problems with those at IBA, but going forward, that needs to be an ESPN primetime-ready game.

Also, I'm a hard-hearted, grudge-holding sonova***** with an axe to grind against the other two D1 schools in the state. That ALWAYS has to be taken into account.

HA HA! ...and I can respect that! I have no love for KSU or KU. When I see Ohio cheerleaders doing 39 push ups for the 39 points they scored against KU last weekend, that brings me joy. Same for when Vandy knocked off KSU who was well on their way to winning the Big 12 and a possible birth in the college playoffs (according to their fans). I do agree the games there should be against higher ranked teams, but everything else about the game would make it good enough for me. I prefer the prime time, ESPN, nail biters to be played at CKA.

[WuShock16]

Interesting note: I was at IBA over the lunch hour to buy tickets for something else and noticed that the upper level will be closed for the K-State/Tulsa game. That doesn't surprise me...but I still think it's pretty funny nonetheless.

[ShockBand]

Interesting note: I was at IBA over the lunch hour to buy tickets for something else and noticed that the upper level will be closed for the K-State/Tulsa game. That doesn't surprise me...but I still think it's pretty funny nonetheless.

And aside from the sideline seats. prices are $50, $25, and $15.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

I can't decide whether it would be better for WSU fans to flock to IBA and cheer for conference buddy Tulsa, or to avoid the game entirely so as to make sure it's the greatest financial disaster possible for KSU.

As for us playing KSU there: no. IBA is for games against substantial noncon matchups. KSU can come to Koch like Savannah State and UMKC.

[SHOCKvalue]

Interesting note: I was at IBA over the lunch hour to buy tickets for something else and noticed that the upper level will be closed for the K-State/Tulsa game. That doesn't surprise me...but I still think it's pretty funny nonetheless.

And aside from the sideline seats. prices are $50, $25, and $15.

Hilarious!

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