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Some teams are “given” good games by their conference. Some aren’t. Where do you get the idea that the committee is out there fighting injustice by giving out a bunch of extra credit for “trying” to schedule well? At the bubble, as a sort of tie-breaker? Yeah, I’ll buy that. Amongst the top teams fighting for top seeds? Where do you find any evidence that suggests they ever give that anything more than just a passing glance?Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
A road win over Duke is clearly given more weight than a home win over Duke. The committee has made it clear this is how they operate. However, the difference between a game on the calendar @ Duke being “chosen” or “given by its conference” to a team is not given nearly the same importance, if any at all.
Cdizzle, you and I both find scheduling a frustrating topic, but right or wrong, the committee has never made “scheduling effort” a major criteria, and I’m not sure where you get the idea that it has. It’s not that the committee has been inconsistent in its application. It’s that the committee just doesn’t use this criteria much at all amongst the top teams.Comment
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“Wow, Team A was 5-3 vs the top 50”
“Yeah, but their conference scheduled most of those games for them. Big deal."
“Look at Team B, who also went 5-3 vs the top 50 and choose to schedule those games on their own. I like them a lot.”
The above conversation doesn’t happen. You can’t call the committee inconsistent in its application of a criteria that isn't one.Last edited by Jamar Howard 4 President; February 21, 2018, 01:44 PM.
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Maybe a rabbit trail, but still, where did you get MSU's non-con SOS over 300? NCAA Team Sheets show it as 244. Still not good, but substantially better than 300+.Originally posted by Cdizzle View PostComment
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Just went through the nitty gritty sheets for the top 20 teams on bracket matrix and surprisingly found that we are currently slotted about where we should be. There are about 11 teams I found who I'd say have a better resume than us (Virginia, Villanova, Xavier, Kansas, Duke, Auburn, Michigan St., Purdue, North Carolina, Texas Tech, and Cincinnati), 5 that have similar resumes (Clemson, Arizona, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Ohio State), and 3 that we are clearly better than (Gonzaga, Rhode Island, and Kentucky). That would put us in the 12 (lowest 3 seed) to 17 (highest 5 seed) range. We are currently sitting at 15. If we end the season strong we could easily jump up to the 3 line.Comment
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Face Palm just said on the pregame that if we win out and beat UC two more times, the best we would be seeded would be 3. Is that true or should I chalk it up to the source?Comment
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Palm is a fool, but in this instance he is right.Last edited by Jamar Howard 4 President; February 22, 2018, 08:39 AM.
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If we run the table we would be 28-5 with an RPI of 5 and a SOS of 27ish. Sure looks like 1 or 2 seed material to me.Originally posted by wichshock65 View PostIts a good landing if you can walk away, its a great landing if the plane can be reused the next day.Comment
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I also forgot to mention to keep an eye on Marquette. They could also bump up to the top 50. They need to win out to do so, but they get @DePaul, @Georgetown, and Creighton at home(who they just beat this past weekend in Omaha). -
@Steelshocker, don't forget that those resumes show WSU with 33 games while the other teams are just shown as of today and haven't been projected out to selection sunday. Maybe one or two teams in that list finish poorly, but odds are that most continue to pick up more Q1 and Q2 wins.
MSU could easily finish 31-3 (5-3, 5-0, no Q3 losses), in which case ain't no way WSU passes them at 28-5.
Even if MSU loses in the Big 10 Tourney, they end with 4 losses, likely all to teams projected as 6 seeds or higher, while WSU finishes with 5 losses, 3 of which are to teams in the NIT. The majority of scenarios the next 2 weeks have MSU with a resume that WSU cannot match, even if they win out.Last edited by Jamar Howard 4 President; February 22, 2018, 11:23 AM. -
I can agree that it would be difficult to pass MSU, and it would be futile to project everyone's future scenario. But I still think things could break right for WSU and they get a 2 seed. Much may depend on if the committee pays attention to the loss to SMU coming against a healthy Shake Milton who dropped 33 points on us in a 5 point loss.
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**** him.Originally posted by wichshock65 View PostDeuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Xavier beat GeorgetownOriginally posted by shocktheheart View Post
Michigan beat Penn St
UNC beat Syracuse
Virginia beat Georgia Tech
Clemson lost to Virginia Tech
Texas Tech lost to Oklahoma St
Auburn beat Alabama
Villanova beat Depaul
Duke beat Louisville
Tennessee beat FloridaComment
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Some games tonight that could impact our seed. Per Bracket Matrix WSU is a 4 seed.
Current Seed per Bracket Matrix
(3) Cincinnati hosting UConn
(2) Purdue at Illinois
(4) Arizona at Oregon St
(6) Houston at Memphis
(5) Gonzaga at San Diego
(6) Arizona St at Oregon
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I dunno, my tiny pea brain thinks we are more likely than not to get a 2 seed if we win out (big if). Part of it may depend on who we draw in the semis in Orlando (Q1 (Temple, likely UCF since this would qualify as a road game for RPI purposes) vs. Q2 (Tulsa)) in the event the long winning streak played out.Comment
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Lunardi's update today puts WSU as a 3 seed (going to Dallas) in the Midwest region. I'll take it.
3 WSU/14 Belmont
6 Florida State/11 Middle Tennessee
1 Xavier/2 Purdue
He also has KU potentially playing Creighton in the second round. I am trying to wrap my head around that one. Is IBA big enough to contain that much jackholeness?Last edited by WuShock16; February 22, 2018, 11:34 AM.78-65Comment
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Historically speaking, what’s the chance Cretin wins game one . . . ZEROComment
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