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  • Originally posted by wufan View Post
    Evans was a WSU ball boy as a kid and always wanted to bring us back to the glory days of McDaniel and Sherod. He was ranked as high as low 20s, but fell back to around 35 nationally.
    Nice! I never knew exactly where he was ranked, so that's cool. Was it after his sophomore year that he transferred to Texas? He transferred because he couldn't get along with Smithson, is that correct?

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    • Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
      Nice! I never knew exactly where he was ranked, so that's cool. Was it after his sophomore year that he transferred to Texas? He transferred because he couldn't get along with Smithson, is that correct?
      That is correct. He averaged ~ 13 points as a freshman and ~ 22 as a sophomore...both of which were in a joke of an offense. I think Smithson actually benched him for a game or two due to some issue. Randy was a hard ass that dealt with some inner demons. His coaches were hard asses. Jason Perez and an injured Darren Williams played on those teams. Everyone else was awful.
      Livin the dream

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      • Originally posted by wufan View Post
        That is correct. He averaged ~ 13 points as a freshman and ~ 22 as a sophomore...both of which were in a joke of an offense. I think Smithson actually benched him for a game or two due to some issue. Randy was a hard ass that dealt with some inner demons. His coaches were hard asses. Jason Perez and an injured Darren Williams played on those teams. Everyone else was awful.
        I've never seen any of Perez' highlights or anything, but long time WSU fans always get excited when talking about him. That's really all I know about him. Must have been a special player.

        Oh, I know one other thing— apparently he was very specific about the pronunciation of Perez. 😄

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        • Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
          I've never seen any of Perez' highlights or anything, but long time WSU fans always get excited when talking about him. That's really all I know about him. Must have been a special player.

          Oh, I know one other thing— apparently he was very specific about the pronunciation of Perez. 😄
          Perez was a hard nose kid! He shot from deep, rebounded and got a bunch of assists from the wing guard. He was Ron Baker when Ron Baker was an infant.
          Livin the dream

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          • Was Perez on the team that beat OSU?

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            • Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
              I'm not sure. I actually wasn't around for it, either. My first game was the Creighton game in 02-03 when they came into the Kansas Colosseum ranked No. 12 (IIRC) with Kyle Korver. I was 11. Over the years, my father educated me on Shocker history.

              Another poster confirmed the story just as it was told to me, but I'll try to elaborate. Evans was a local kid, grew up a WSU fan. Highly touted and way above the level of recruit WSU typically had any shot in hell of signing. I don't know if he was a McDonald's AA, or closer to the level of Landry or Markis (feel free to clarify, anyone who knows), but at the very least it would have been similar to if Landry or Markis grew up in Baltimore and decided to go to Coppin State or something. We were bad.
              So ole Roy Boy, then at KU, had been giving Evans the hard sell. When Maurice signed with us, Roy and his fellow Hawks thought it impossible that Wichita State could land a recruit that KU wanted without cheating. So they blew the whistle on us only for the NCAA to investigate and find absolutely nothing. Keep in mind, we're the same school that was put on probation years prior because our coach saw a player walking home in the cold without a coat, pulled over and threw him a coat that he had in his car. Considering that, the NCAA finding us squeaky clean shows just how delusional Roy Williams is. I may be wrong, but I think the entire KU athletic department backed him on the whole thing.

              My recollection of being told what happened with the Med School is pretty foggy, but I think it boiled down to Wichita State wanting to build a med center, KU rejecting it and claiming they had already been planning on building a KU Med School in Wichita. My dad told me all about it years ago, but I seem to have not retained a whole lot of it. My (often flawed) logic tells me to assume it was purely about money and stifling Wichita State's growth in order to re-establish big brother status.

              If anyone who wasn't four when all this happened would like to correct/clarify/add anything to my assessment, please do. I always love learning more about Shocker history.

              Anyway, in short, KU has a record of trying to keep us under their boot.
              If you can locate a copy of Uncloistered Halls, you will learn a great deal about WSU's history.
              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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              • Perez had the most accurate knuckleball 3 pointer in history.

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                • Originally posted by thunderkwb View Post
                  Was Perez on the team that beat OSU?
                  No--that was the team with Robert George, Coop, Guff, etc. if I recall. We also beat Alabama that Season and later that Season, Coop's leg was broke in a game.
                  Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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                  • Originally posted by forevershockerfan View Post
                    No--that was the team with Robert George, Coop, Guff, etc. if I recall. We also beat Alabama that Season and later that Season, Coop's leg was broke in a game.
                    Broke his leg against Tennessee in Hawaii. An Alan Houston led Vol team. We won by the way. If we wouldn't have gotten hurt, who knows...
                    Last edited by ShockingButTrue; March 27, 2017, 08:56 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
                      Nice! I never knew exactly where he was ranked, so that's cool. Was it after his sophomore year that he transferred to Texas? He transferred because he couldn't get along with Smithson, is that correct?
                      Moreso a Frankamp than a Shamet.

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                      • No. He graduated in the spring of 2000. Game was fall of 2000 under Turgeon.
                        Livin the dream

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                        • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                          Perez was a hard nose kid! He shot from deep, rebounded and got a bunch of assists from the wing guard. He was Ron Baker when Ron Baker was an infant.
                          Though out his career, I saw Jason play all 5 positions.

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                          • Originally posted by another shocker View Post
                            the ku sympathizers should be getting on altman. he's the one that called them "chickenhawks" and then beat the hell out of them.
                            Wait. Didn't we do that too? :poster_wu:

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                            • Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post
                              If playing anywhere in KC is too much pressure for The Rug's Thugs, how do they ever survive playing in the Phog? The expectations are way higher there.
                              Hah. I dont know why I said Kemper. Meant KC.
                              "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                              • Perez also got a lot of steals. He basically did it all. But, yeah, I would compare him to Baker.
                                "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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