Sutton news

[rjl]

OSU athletics have been getting some huge donations as of late (Boone Pickens gave $165 MILLION at the end of '06), so it wouldn't surprise me if they threw some big money at a prospect.

[rrshock]

Self was just asked in his news conference about it and he said that he would strongly encourage them to look at someone else.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

GodDanaGod?

[shockball]

OSU athletics have been getting some huge donations as of late (Boone Pickens gave $165 MILLION at the end of '06), so it wouldn't surprise me if they threw some big money at a prospect.

I believe that TBoone immediatly funded that $165m and invested it into his oil ventures. It's now worth well over $200m.

[ShockIt2Ya!]

The hedge fund is actually worth quite a bit more than that now. T Boone actually got another 80+ big time boosters to take variable life policies out of about $30 thousand each, assigning OSU athletics as the beneficiaries so that the policies payable upon death would donate another $2-3 millon right off the bat... not to mention the money that those policies will make.

It will be interesting to see if money talks....

[shockall]

If two years of unsuccessful team management is the current trend for coach replacement, there are probably a lot of coaches worrying about their positions.

[Shox21]

GodDanaGod?

Well, Dana would probably look just as foolish in cowboy boots and hat as he did trying the pig call (actually I don't know of ANYONE that doesn't feel foolish making that noise except someone raised in Arkansas.)

[wu_shizzle]

If KU wins the national title, i think he at least gives it a thought

I agree, I think it makes a difference. Win a NC at Kansas, you've got nothing left to prove and try it again in Stoolwater.

Come up short and your still hungry and the best shot you have is to stay in Larry-town.

I know Self has said he loves Lawrence and they seem to love him as well.

[bloodgold]

Just watched the OSU press conference. I honestly don’t think that they have approached anyone yet. They seem to be really far behind. The AD did an okay job, but I think he will catch a ton of heat for giving the impression that he (quote) "did not keep a list of coaches he admired, did not know whether they will form a search committee, had not spoken to a single person about anything related to the position, did not have any idea how long it would take, had never done this before, needs coaching on how to conduct a search," etc. People might say he said those things out of respect for Sean Sutton, but it came off like he took a long time to decide and now finds himself without a plan. Problem is, this is their 3rd straight loss in the opening round of the NIT….maybe he was going to wait and see what happened, but he didn’t need to wait to have a plan in case it did.

[KC Shox]

Self is staying. First, the job would be a step down. There are only a handful of programs that are considered the Elite of college basketball. KU, UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, Indiana, Wichita St. (ahem). OK State isn't one of them. KU will give the guy a raise, it won't come close to what Boone will offer, but KU Basketball in itself is offers much more intangibles than OSU on top of the million plus Self is already getting.

Self has already mentioned that KU was his dream job I doubt the guy bolts. But as they say, money talks so I give it a 1 percent chance he leaves.

[vbird53]

maybe he was going to wait and see what happened, but he didn’t need to wait to have a plan in case it did.

This wouldn't make any sense, because Okie State finished the season on a fairly high note (other than the opening round loss in the NIT)

I heard Gotlieb talking about how the AD at Okie State is probably way in over his head, but got the job because he's buddies with TBoone. Sounds like this press conference did nothing to move opinions the other direction.

[WSUwatcher]

Why not?

What the heck -- why not take a shot at Self?

It seems unlikely, and Self may say he loves Lawrence, but he is an Okie, and $4 million a year (if that's what Pickens wants to put up for however many years it takes) is $4 million a year. Some people do keep score that way, although Self doesn't strike me as one of them.

Still, if you really don't have a clue where to turn, why not aim high? The Alabama football program aimed high, and their $4 million a year got them Nick Saban (not that OSU basketball and Alabama football are even remotely comparable in stature, granted -- even KU basketball is a step down from Alabama football in terms of overall history and tradition, so where does that leave Oklahoma State? -- but you never know until you ask).

[mattdalt]

Possible scenario: You are from OSU, your wife is from OSU. They are never, ever going to name the gym after you in Lawrence, no matter how many national championship banners you may hang.

One of the primary distinguishing characteristics of an "elite" program is the amount and availability of resources. If Mr. Pickens wants OSU at an "elite" level, he has the money for the facilities and the coach.

Now to bring it full circle, perhaps Mr. Self is interested in not only winning, but having an enduring legacy. Self Court located in Pickens Arena would be more than he could ever get at Lawrence.

That and the enormous pile of cash :)

[BAShocker]

Billy Gillespe's name is getting a lot of talk down here to replace Sutton.

[ShockIt2Ya!]

Possible scenario: You are from OSU, your wife is from OSU. They are never, ever going to name the gym after you in Lawrence, no matter how many national championship banners you may hang.

One of the primary distinguishing characteristics of an "elite" program is the amount and availability of resources. If Mr. Pickens wants OSU at an "elite" level, he has the money for the facilities and the coach.

Now to bring it full circle, perhaps Mr. Self is interested in not only winning, but having an enduring legacy. Self Court located in Pickens Arena would be more than he could ever get at Lawrence.

That and the enormous pile of cash :)

I don't think that they are changing it from Gallaher Iba Arena for one...but the court is named after Eddie Sutton already...so I am not so sure they jump to change. It would be a while.

I heard Gotlieb talking about how the AD at Okie State is probably way in over his head, but got the job because he's buddies with TBoone. Sounds like this press conference did nothing to move opinions the other direction.

Holder got the job on his own (Boone had nothing to do with it) as OSU is his alma matter, his success as the Golf coach in winning 8 NCAA Chamionships as a coach , and has so much to do with the community including being the main force in getting Karsten Creek built. Holder was in line to be the AD and he and TBP just happen to be fast friends and T Boone hated Les Miles, and as long as Les was the football coach no money was going to be giving to the athletic department. Hence why Mike Holder and TBP hand picked Mike Gundy. TBP liked Mike Gundy and without Mike Gundy TBP was not going to donate the money. Hopefully they will be able to do that with this basketball coach as well, as they have a plan for who ever they plan to replace him with.