Other Valley Conference Games Thread 2016-2017

[ShockerFever]

Yea. Amazing to make it to OT with 2 intentional fouls and still not hit the bonus...

Must just be that superb, gritty defense instilled by Muller.

[Aargh]

Game winner goes to the team that pisses down their leg and trips on their own feet the least.

OT has been an Incompetence Bowl

Let's just call it The Incontinent Bowl

[shocktown]

Ku crew from last night?

Could be, on the drive and spin by MM that the tv crew was raving about on replay he traveled at the start of the move. MM lifts his left foot and then leads with right on the drive. Fwiw, was not as obvious as the 5 step drive last night.

[WuDrWu]

Could be, on the drive and spin by MM that the tv crew was raving about on replay he traveled at the start of the move. MM lifts his left foot and then leads with right on the drive. Fwiw, was not as obvious as the 5 step drive last night.

The sun rising in the east isn't as obvious as that travel last night.

Anyone see John Higgins Hair's comment?

Missed the end of the #kubasketball game. I was traveling.

Good stuff as always.

[WuDrWu]

Is it just me, or do there, as of today at least, appear to be 7 Thursday teams in the Valley?

SIU and Bradley at 2-1? You've got to be kidding me........

[Play Angry]

Is it just me, or do there, as of today at least, appear to be 7 Thursday teams in the Valley?

SIU and Bradley at 2-1? You've got to be kidding me........

Seems like half the schools are about where we were at various points under Thompson/Smithson. Just when we'd start to put together a decent stretch, boom, a total turd performance or two on the home court and back to the drawing board. Our ceiling back then was about as tall as a midget's personal best at high jump given the makeup of our roster...and that's about where those other MVC teams currently stand now.

Other than ISUr and MSU, I don't think there is a roster in the league that HCGM could coach to a top 75 RPI if he'd had the reins since last April. This is just a bottomless pit of (mostly) shitty coaches, (mostly) shitty players, (unanimously sans WSU) shitty fan support and (unanimously sans WSU and, I guess, UNI and Bradley) shitty budgets/salaries. Elgin should just light the whole thing on fire after he slaps us on the butt on our way to the AAC but before slamming the ice pick into his temple.

The attendance of ISUr vs. MSU tonight is a beautiful illustration of how ****ed this league is. That was a premier matchup of likely top 3 teams, and Redbird Arena looked like it did at the ass end of the Bob Donewald era when their RPI was at 5x what it is today. Barring an unlikely mixture of luck and incredibly strong, fresh leadership at a lot of these schools, the reversal of their decline ain't happening anytime soon (like, in the next decade+). Everyone but us remains mired in a mid-90s level MVC funk.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

It seems pretty clear that ISUr and MSU are the only other contenders for any sort of post season tournament. The other 7 are unlikely to even sniff the CBI/CIT/CRAP/WHATEVER tourneys.

16-2 or 17-1 seem like the most likely records for WSU. Either of those records easily wins the league. I'm primarily rooting for ISUr the rest of the way. I'll root for MSU a little, but they need to reach 14-4 (not going to happen) to even have a chance at finishing top 100. ISUr is now nearly a lock to finish top 100 (11-7 should be good enough, so only need to go 8-7 the rest of the way). It would probably take 15-3 to reach top 50, but 14-4 would be close. Even if they only reach the 60-70 range, WSU needs modest quality wins. It is inevitable that people will talk about how weak WSU's best wins are. Might as well make those best wins as good as possible to help soften that argument just a bit.

[ShockerPhi]

It seems pretty clear that ISUr and MSU are the only other contenders for any sort of post season tournament. The other 7 are unlikely to even sniff the CBI/CIT/CRAP/WHATEVER tourneys.

16-2 or 17-1 seem like the most likely records for WSU. Either of those records easily wins the league. I'm primarily rooting for ISUr the rest of the way. I'll root for MSU a little, but they need to reach 14-4 (not going to happen) to even have a chance at finishing top 100. ISUr is now nearly a lock to finish top 100 (11-7 should be good enough, so only need to go 8-7 the rest of the way). It would probably take 15-3 to reach top 50, but 14-4 would be close. Even if they only reach the 60-70 range, WSU needs modest quality wins. It is inevitable that people will talk about how weak WSU's best wins are. Might as well make those best wins as good as possible to help soften that argument just a bit.

Ugh, fine. I'll root for ISUr too... *vomit*

[Cdizzle]

They can all suck it. At this point how anyone else in the conference does has zero bearing on whether we get an at-large. I hope they all crap their pants repeatedly and WSU goes 18-0.

[WheatShock]

They can all suck it. At this point how anyone else in the conference does has zero bearing on whether we get an at-large. I hope they all crap their pants repeatedly and WSU goes 21-0.

Fixed that for you.

The way it looks now, I will only be comfortable on selection sunday if we win in St. Louis.

[Cdizzle]

Fixed that for you.

The way it looks now, I will only be comfortable on selection sunday if we win in St. Louis.

Agree to agree.

[ShockerFever]

They can all suck it. At this point how anyone else in the conference does has zero bearing on whether we get an at-large. I hope they all crap their pants repeatedly and WSU goes 18-0.

This.

2 wins over a mediocre Top 75 team isn't gonna improve our quality win total. Wins over a team that's not getting an at-large will not give us any bump at all whatsoever.

They'll be lucky to win 12 Valley games anyways so it's moot.

[WheatShock]

Help me AAC, your my only hope!

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Where in the world do some of you come up with the idea that WSU is unaffected if they have 2 wins over #60, vs 2 wins over #90? Considering that these are literally going to be WSU's only top 100 wins of the season, how can you possibly say it makes no difference?

[Cdizzle]

Where in the world do some of you come up with the idea that WSU is unaffected if they have 2 wins over #60, vs 2 wins over #90? Considering that these are literally going to be WSU's only top 100 wins of the season, how can you possibly say it makes no difference?

Because the difference between 60 and 90 doesn't matter this year. The difference between 49 and 51 probably doesn't even matter this year. The resume is too weak for anything but sheer volume of wins and name recognition to matter.