2016-17 National Rankings

[ShockerFever]

Hilarious - I said tongue in Cheek, that Iowa State would be ranked. Guess it wasn't so funny. 19-9

To be fair, they have a good amount of quality losses.

[ShockerPrez]

#21 at near the end of the season in a rebuilding year is pretty solid. Now, win St Loo and do some damage in the tourney.

#NotSatisfied

[ShockingButTrue]

Here's a perfect example of Seth Davis mentioning both WSU and the Koch brothers, and how they actually affect his ability to root for the Shox. I'm so tired of everything having to be politicized. Sports should be a safe haven from that world, not part of it.

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/s...57392990580737

Who woulda' ever conceptualized your skills at diplomacy? :bball_spin: :bball_spin:

[ShockBand]

#21 at near the end of the season in a rebuilding year is pretty solid. Now, win St Loo and do some damage in the tourney.

#NotSatisfied

I'm going to supplement #NotSatisfied with something I saw on Facebook attributed to Landry. "Go out and leave no doubt."

T-shirt worthy: LEAVE. NO. DOUBT.

[ROOT ANGRY!]

As a pollster, Davis is supposed to be INDEPENDENT and OBJECTIVE. If he can't keep politics out of it, he needs to quit. There have been times in my career that I had to make a choice to either be independent and objective or to sacrifice it.

I think people respect you more as a person when you do not allow anything to influence your independence and objectivity, especially if your role dictates judging by facts and not opinions.

The same hour that Davis said he was "conflicted" by our success , he also tweeted that "Wichita State passes the eye test. Leads Illinois State 59-26 with 13 minutes left."

I'd note that, unlike *******,Davis is closely following a non P5 game--maybe even watching it!--
And complimenting us on our performance, before the game's even finished
How many other national cbb writers did that?

I'd suggest that his worst bias is of the P5, top 50 win variety. Look who he moved above us:
Mich St, Ok St, Miami, Ia St.
T's safe to say he thinks we're a quality program, that should (just barely) be in the tournament, and is predisposed to favor P5 teams with recent shiny wins, ala MSU
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[Stickboy46]

22 In the coaches poll. Creighton .. NR

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

[Shocker_Power]

As a pollster, Davis is supposed to be INDEPENDENT and OBJECTIVE. If he can't keep politics out of it, he needs to quit. There have been times in my career that I had to make a choice to either be independent and objective or to sacrifice it.

I think people respect you more as a person when you do not allow anything to influence your independence and objectivity, especially if your role dictates judging by facts and not opinions.

Sorry, all of our personal biases bleed over into other areas of our lives for each and every one of us. Now, there may be the person that is apolitical, but they will have other biases just the same.

[ShockingButTrue]

ISU blue by a basket.

The cyclones are at a different level than the Shockers when it comes to defense.

[OregonShocker]

The problem with this bias, as with all biases, is that it is selective. If you don't like Koch contributing to WSU, but think other schools DON'T have big name donors just as controversial, then you're not looking hard enough. He should just do his job: rank the teams. If he wants his bias to influence who he ROOTS for, then ok.

[WSUwatcher]

Here's a perfect example of Seth Davis mentioning both WSU and the Koch brothers, and how they actually affect his ability to root for the Shox. I'm so tired of everything having to be politicized. Sports should be a safe haven from that world, not part of it.

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/s...57392990580737

Thanks, Jamar -- I'm sick of the leftist infestation (and that's what it is, pretty much exclusively leftist) of the sports world as well, and Seth Davis basically disqualified himself as a commentator in my eyes with that tweet. He may have a clue what he's talking about, but I no longer care what he thinks. Seth can believe that if he wants -- it's a free country -- but he doesn't need to say it, and it's wildly self-indulgent, undisciplined, and unprofessional for him to do so. If people like him would STFU about stuff like that then we'd be a lot less likely to get into it here.

[shocka khan]

Sorry, all of our personal biases bleed over into other areas of our lives for each and every one of us. Now, there may be the person that is apolitical, but they will have other biases just the same.

Sorry, but Davis needs to check his opinion at the door. This isn't the 'teams we FEEL are the top 25', it's the top 25, as measured in how they play BASKETBALL not politics. As Judge Judy says, "Feelings are for Dr. Phil."

And not only that, this gush of political correctness comes after an election where the Koch brothers really did not support the guy who won. Seems like not only is he getting caught up in politics, he does poorly at identifying cause and effect as well.

[Shockadelica]

John Feinstein has us at #12 in his poll. Smart man. He's watch a little WSU basketball I bet.

[shocka khan]

The problem with this bias, as with all biases, is that it is selective. If you don't like Koch contributing to WSU, but think other schools DON'T have big name donors just as controversial, then you're not looking hard enough. He should just do his job: rank the teams. If he wants his bias to influence who he ROOTS for, then ok.

I wonder what he thinks of GW and George Mason? Would he rank them? Or would he start tweeting that they are too conservative and making political statements about those two schools as well?

[Hurley]

Sorry, but Davis needs to check his opinion at the door. This isn't the 'teams we FEEL are the top 25', it's the top 25, as measured in how they play BASKETBALL not politics. As Judge Judy says, "Feelings are for Dr. Phil."

And not only that, this gush of political correctness comes after an election where the Koch brothers really did not support the guy who won. Seems like not only is he getting caught up in politics, he does poorly at identifying cause and effect as well.

Well said. Do your friggin job, which has nothing to do with your personal political beliefs. I may think Baylor University is trash for all the terrible things the school has been involved in over the last decade, but that CANNOT get in the way of whether or not I think Baylor has a good basketball team and bias my top 25 vote. One has NOTHING to do with the other.

Absolute garbage that Seth Davis would tweet that about WSU and Koch. Brainwashed left-wing morons who believe everything they read from biased media with political axes to grind.

[1972Shocker]

My guess is Seth Davis probably doesn't even have good understanding of what the Koch Brothers politics are nor does he probably have a clue exactly how much Koch money has contributed to Wichita State vs other academic institituions and other charitable endeavors. All he knows is that the Koch Brothers are worth a sh$t ton of money and the Koch name is on our arena. He probably assumes, like many others do as well, that Koch money is funding 95% of our athletic budget and paid for 100% of the Roundhouse Rennaisssance. I'm pretty sure that is not even close to accurate. Heck has David Koch ever even attended a WSU basketball game?

Seth also knows that in the circles he runs in that he can gain cool points by bashing the dastardly Koch Brothers even though he probably has no clue as to what he is talking about or exactly why they are such evil people. But he does have a podium to shout from so that right there makes him credible I guess.

Not sure I would get too worked up about it. It is what it is. Unfortunately, we tend to give guys like Seth Davis and Jerry Palm exactly what they want. Attention and to be noticed and to be responded to in any way, shape or form as long as they can count it.