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  • The p5 have already told the ncaa how they want football to be handled and the way a playoff should happen. I really think it is only a matter of time until they decide to have their own basketball tournament without all of the other "distractions" because once again its about the money and they don't want to split it up except among themselves. Greedy bastards

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    • But the tv viewership counts big-time when the little guys are included. Many folks tune just to see David smoke Goliath!!! March Madness wouldn't be the same with just all P-5 types. Boring...
      FINAL FOURS:
      1965, 2013

      NCAA Tournament:
      1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

      NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

      AP Poll History of Wichita St:
      Number of Times Ranked: 157
      Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
      Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
      Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

      Highest Recent AP Ranking:
      #3 - Dec. 2017
      #2 ~ March 2014

      Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
      #2 ~ March 2014
      Finished 2013 Season #4

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      • Originally posted by pogo View Post
        The p5 have already told the ncaa how they want football to be handled and the way a playoff should happen. I really think it is only a matter of time until they decide to have their own basketball tournament without all of the other "distractions" because once again its about the money and they don't want to split it up except among themselves. Greedy bastards
        Would that potentially backfire on them? If fans from non-P5 schools said screw you and boycotted watching the tournament, ratings and money would plummet. They would split a significantly smaller pot

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        • I think a p5 only tournament would be a slap in the face to the long great history of college basketball. Many of the schools that founded the game are not big Football schools. (Including KU).
          They could destroy a truly special sporting event.
          Last edited by top20shock; February 26, 2017, 11:09 PM.

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          • The biggest ingredient that makes the NCAA special for the fans is the small schools and upsets.

            Unfortunately, that is what pisses the P5 schools off the most...
            "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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            • I would not be opposed to only having conference champions in the NCAA tournament and the best remaining 32 in the NIT.
              Livin the dream

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              • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                I would not be opposed to only having conference champions in the NCAA tournament and the best remaining 32 in the NIT.
                So you are fine if WSU would be in the NCAA only once in the past 5 years?
                Whatever you ask for in prayer with faith, you will receive. (Mt 21:22)

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                • Originally posted by T.VuOP View Post
                  So you are fine if WSU would be in the NCAA only once in the past 5 years?
                  I would imagine he meant regular season conference champions.
                  "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                  • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                    I would not be opposed to only having conference champions in the NCAA tournament and the best remaining 32 in the NIT.
                    Scrap the post season tournaments?

                    "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                    • Please AAC..... I beg you......

                      Gonzaga is going to be in the same boat too. As is Dayton, VCU, etc.

                      Wish they could get together and form a super basketball conference. They could pool together some of the AAC's and MWC's basketball teams only too.

                      Something like:
                      - WSU (MVC)
                      - Zaga (WCC)
                      - BYU (WCC)
                      - VCU (A10)
                      - Dayton (A10)

                      - SDSU (MWC)
                      - UNLV (MWC)
                      - New Mexico (MWC)

                      - Cinci (AAC)
                      - UCONN (AAC)
                      - SMU (AAC)
                      - Memphis (AAC)

                      Kill the regular definition of "conference alignment"., make the Independent Basketball Coalition
                      The Assman

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                      • The NCAA BB tournament is by far the best tournament in all of sports. So many different teams from Div 1 schools all over country, from the Power 5 down to the lower D-1 conferences get a chance that they often do not get during the regular season. And that is to play, and sometimes even beat one of the so called Blue Bloods of the BB world.

                        Like AZ Shocker indicated, a tremendous number of fans throughout the country love to pull for the underdog small school. And this is what makes the tournament great besides increasing the TV revenue.

                        If they try and make a major change and create an only Power 5 conference tournament, they may very well cut their own narrow, scraggly throats.

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                        • #20 on this ballot...

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                          • Originally posted by T.VuOP View Post
                            So you are fine if WSU would be in the NCAA only once in the past 5 years?
                            The NIT would mean something again. Expansion isn't the answer. Separating the P5 from the rest isn't the answer. Trying to come up with something. The NCAA used to only take conference champions. I'd be okay if they cut several of the D-I schools and put them at D-II, I just don't want to be on the wrong side of the cut line.
                            Livin the dream

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                            • Originally posted by wushock27 View Post
                              Up from #21 last week by the same voter.

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                              • Originally posted by Dave Stalwart View Post
                                Yeah something is going on in general. I wonder how much time we really have left before it goes from a conversation to a reality that the p-5 takes over and mid major becomes an "FCS" kind of thing

                                And if it is going to get really bad for mid majors, are we even safe in the AAC? I feel like the AAC and big east should be viewed at a higher level but who knows?

                                palm may not be off base at all. Maybe he knows something we don't. I don't like how the narrative sounds this year
                                Let's not forget that the FBS has 5 conferences that are not P5 plus four independents.

                                A divide like what you are saying would most likely eliminate about 15-17 of the annually non-competitive conferences from a "FBS-type" tournament, but still allow all teams from all 32 conferences to play each other during the regular non-con season.

                                Under the current tournament format, even eliminating the "play-in" games, it would allow for 47-49 at large teams. You could even allow for automatic bids for all regular season champions as a least half of these would qualify at-large anyway and still have more at-large berths than you have now.

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