Shox vs. McGill

[pinstripers]

Increase meds.

[Shocker1976]

It is not micromanaging to tell employees "don't embarrass us at public events". There are now 2 clear examples from the past 2 years of Marshall doing exactly that (in my eyes at least). Yes, this is a very subjective topic. Opinions on what is acceptable will differ. I'm just saying that from my vantage point, Marshall has 2 strikes and sooner or later these "isolated incidents" will become a pattern if he doesn't watch it.

JH4P, please exchange private emails with Fever if you want to continue down this trail.

[shocka khan]

Increase meds.

I agree and I seem to think the words 'drama queen' can be inserted somewhere in here as well. Anxiety medication works well for that issue.

[shocka khan]

It is not micromanaging to tell employees "don't embarrass us at public events". There are now 2 clear examples from the past 2 years of Marshall doing exactly that (in my eyes at least). Yes, this is a very subjective topic. Opinions on what is acceptable will differ. I'm just saying that from my vantage point, Marshall has 2 strikes and sooner or later these "isolated incidents" will become a pattern if he doesn't watch it.

He would have appeared to violate a code of conduct (I'm assuming our school has one). He was disciplined for it with the one-game suspension (the ole' "violations of the code of conduct will be subject to disciplinary actions up to and including dismissal". I'm sure there was also a conversation around the consequences of what might happen if there was another occurrence.

Methinks your '2 clear examples' are one valid observation and one where you do not have the contexting necessary to clearly prove your assumption that he's violated the code of conduct twice. Otherwise the suspension would not have been so light.

[ShockingButTrue]

He would have appeared to violate a code of conduct (I'm assuming our school has one). He was disciplined for it with the one-game suspension (the ole' "violations of the code of conduct will be subject to disciplinary actions up to and including dismissal". I'm sure there was also a conversation around the consequences of what might happen if there was another occurrence.

Methinks your '2 clear examples' are one valid observation and one where you do not have the contexting necessary to clearly prove your assumption that he's violated the code of conduct twice. Otherwise the suspension would not have been so light.

Agreed. He got ejected for heaven's sake. What D1 Coach hasn't? Some people would have been happier if he did it with class like Uncle Dean? I aint buying that either.

If apologies were necessary I'm pretty sure the offended parties got 'em. That it wasn't public is probably what chagrined some of the -ahem- local scribes.

Besides, it's not like he pulled his pud out on an elevator or anything... Sheesh...

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I'm not really worried at the moment about some official, technical count of school code of conduct violations. I'm just saying there are fans like me who have witnessed 2 noticeable events. If it reaches 3 or 4, I'm going to start having a problem, whether the school does or not. Not all fans feel the same as I do, but I don't think I'm totally alone in my opinion either. That's not a road Marshall, WSU, or anyone else should want to go down. These 2 events are not examples of acceptable behavior. The more they happen, the fewer people are going to be willing to just dismiss them and move on easily.

[Eric]

This sort of thing never happened on Mike Cohen's watch. Just let that sink in.... It'll be OK, time to move on.

[Shox21]

Cause of both events -- player protection. Marshall (nor any coach worth his salt) is not going to stay quiet when his players are at jeopardy. I'm not saying forgive and forget, but quit beating a dead horse. Marshall himself said "there's a right way of doing things" and he admits and apologizes for not doing things the right way. What more do you want -- a blood oath. He knows he reacted badly. Let it die and move on, PLEASE.

[ShockerPhi]

Over/under on the number of pages to this thread: 37.5

[ShockingButTrue]

Cause of both events -- player protection. Marshall (nor any coach worth his salt) is not going to stay quiet when his players are at jeopardy. I'm not saying forgive and forget, but quit beating a dead horse. Marshall himself said "there's a right way of doing things" and he admits and apologizes for not doing things the right way. What more do you want -- a blood oath. He knows he reacted badly. Let it die and move on, PLEASE.

Some people of North might not like it, but that's the way it went down. The players know he's got their backs. That's the proper way to educate young men.

There is a plethora of D1 coaches with highly intense natures strolling the sidelines all time. Their probably worse at practice! Who cares if Coach K has a sailors mouth? You think they want Huggins out of Morgantown? Isn't Izzo really the biggest jerk in the Midwest?

What will sully his -ahem- legacy, in my opinion, is if he demeans the players/students that are on his basketball teams. From all I've heard (from him) and read there's no signs of that type of a temperament. Remember R. Smithson? That's about the only hypothetical supposition worth positing, as far as legacy, vs. giving the refs the business. C'mon man!

[ShockerFever]

JH4P, please exchange private emails with Fever if you want to continue down this trail.

I have not spoken one word about this in four days. So you need to get my ass out of your crushing, obsessed head, you POS.

[ShockerFever]

Did anybody watch this?

Only anybody without a life.

[ShockerFever]

I've probably stared down my 6-12 years olds a few times, especially my 12 year old.

Your own 6-12 year olds or another person's 6-12 year olds?

[ShockerFever]

Loyola has fans?

Yes. 4 of them.

[WuDrWu]

Great post Doc until the last 3 words. Isolated? If only...

http://shockernet.net/forum/showthre...l=1#post537920

It's been a mostly GLORIOUS year or 2 since you joined my ranks of the blocked, but since you quoted me, in one of your all too typical attempts to be the truth police, allow me to clarify this for you, since you appear to be incapable of understanding what I actually wrote:


This was an isolated incident. And "this one isolated incident", poor as it was, does not outweigh all the good.

Now if YOU want to weigh all incidents, isolated or otherwise, then be my guest. I choose, at this time, not to. That's why I specified this "one isolated event".

I compared the value of this one event vs the value of all the good. That's what I did. Don't try and correct what I want to do.

You want to take the time to put together one of your dumbass graphs, be my guest. Thankfully, I won't see it.

Jackass.