2016-17 Media Hate Thread

[DUShock]

"NCAA Tournament bubble watch: Tracking Thursday's games and who's in, out" - CBS Sports

by Jerry Palm
02/23/17, 5:17pm

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-bubble-watch-tracking-thursdays-games-and-whos-in-out/

"...The Shockers’ overall SOS is relatively poor also. It would have to be a really weak field for Wichita to get in with this profile, but that worked for them last season."

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Last four in: Kansas State, TCU, Marquette, Syracuse
First four out: Rhode Island, Alabama, Wichita State, Wake Forest

Dick

[shoxilla]

Dear Haters,

[DUShock]

@shoxilla:

[im4wsu]

"NCAA Tournament bubble watch: Tracking Thursday's games and who's in, out" - CBS Sports

by Jerry Palm
02/23/17, 5:17pm

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-bubble-watch-tracking-thursdays-games-and-whos-in-out/

"...The Shockers’ overall SOS is relatively poor also. It would have to be a really weak field for Wichita to get in with this profile, but that worked for them last season."

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Last four in: Kansas State, TCU, Marquette, Syracuse
First four out: Rhode Island, Alabama, Wichita State, Wake Forest

Gee, does anything stand out here?

	Record	NCAA RPI	KenPom	TeamRank	CBS	Sagarin	Sport-Ref	RealTime Pwr
Kansas State	17 - 11	62	30	34	62	35	34	53
TCU	17 - 11	53	42	50	53	44	38	60
Marquette	17 - 10	69	31	30	69	41	29	67
Syracuse	17 - 12	78	45	31	78	39	37	78
Rhode Island	17 - 12	49	53	46	49	54	56	52
Alabama	16 -10	71	61	65	73	62	62	73
Wichita State	26 - 4	41	12	15	41	15	14	25
Wake Forest	16 - 12	40	33	39	40	38	36	63

[Heinro]

Gee, does anything stand out here?

+1

I haven't understood Jerry Palm's love affair with Rhode Island for a while. They are 17-12, 1-3 vs the Top 50, 2-4 vs Top 100, 6-5 on the road, with 2 sub 100 losses at HOME. I have 0 doubt, if they manage to get in, Jerry Palm gets info from someone.

[wichshock65]

Dear Haters,

That could move us up to last four in, even in Palms eyes!

[ShockingButTrue]

Dear Haters,

Hahahahahahaha

[im4wsu]

CBS Sports bracketology and Sagarin's Ratings and versus WSU

Seed	WSU	89.88	WSU
16	New Orleans	67.69	22.19
16	Mount St. Mary's	67.79	22.09
16	Texas Southern	68.72	21.16
16	North Dakota	70.54	19.34
16	NC Central	70.76	19.12
15	North Dakota State	72.48	17.4
16	UC Irvine	72.74	17.14
14	Florida Gulf Coast	73.96	15.92
14	NC Asheville	74.59	15.29
15	CS Bakersfield	74.78	15.1
15	Bucknell	76.08	13.8
14	Akron	76.27	13.61
15	Belmont	77.02	12.86
13	Valparaiso	77.34	12.54
13	Monmouth-NJ	77.68	12.2
13	Vermont	77.84	12.04
12	Texas-Arlington	78.15	11.73
13	Princeton	78.17	11.71
14	East Tennessee State(ETS	78.75	11.13
12	NC Wilmington	79.82	10.06
12	Nevada	79.93	9.95
11	Middle Tennessee	80.76	9.12
11	Providence	81.12	8.76
7	Southern California	81.32	8.56
12	Illinois State	81.39	8.49
10	Seton Hall	81.89	7.99
7	Virginia Tech	82.56	7.32
10	California	82.78	7.1
10	Michigan State	82.84	7.04
11	TCU	82.86	7.02
9	VCU	82.89	6.99
10	Arkansas	82.9	6.98
7	Northwestern	83.46	6.42
11	Syracuse	83.56	6.32
6	Maryland	83.84	6.04
11	Kansas State	84.04	5.84
9	Dayton	84.08	5.8
5	Minnesota	84.31	5.57
11	Marquette	84.37	5.51
8	Xavier-Ohio	84.73	5.15
8	South Carolina	84.92	4.96
8	Miami-Florida	85.53	4.35
9	Michigan	85.62	4.26
6	Saint Mary's-Cal.	87.05	2.83
5	Notre Dame	87.52	2.36
7	SMU	87.57	2.31
4	Butler	87.69	2.19
6	Creighton	87.71	2.17
9	Oklahoma State	87.75	2.13
2	Arizona	88.2	1.68
8	Iowa State	88.3	1.58
4	Cincinnati	88.42	1.46
3	Florida State	88.7	1.18
2	Baylor	89.83	0.05
4	UCLA	89.95	-0.07
5	Wisconsin	89.99	-0.11
2	Oregon	90.25	-0.37
4	Purdue	90.78	-0.9
6	Virginia	90.93	-1.05
3	Duke	91.53	-1.65
3	Florida	91.96	-2.08
2	Louisville	92.38	-2.5
1	Kansas	92.42	-2.54
3	Kentucky	92.68	-2.8
1	Villanova	92.82	-2.94
1	North Carolina	93.48	-3.6
5	West Virginia	93.7	-3.82
1	Gonzaga	94.58	-4.7

[S_WU_SH]

CBS Sports bracketology and Sagarin's Ratings and versus WSU

Seed	WSU	89.88	WSU
16	New Orleans	67.69	22.19
16	Mount St. Mary's	67.79	22.09
16	Texas Southern	68.72	21.16
16	North Dakota	70.54	19.34
16	NC Central	70.76	19.12
15	North Dakota State	72.48	17.4
16	UC Irvine	72.74	17.14
14	Florida Gulf Coast	73.96	15.92
14	NC Asheville	74.59	15.29
15	CS Bakersfield	74.78	15.1
15	Bucknell	76.08	13.8
14	Akron	76.27	13.61
15	Belmont	77.02	12.86
13	Valparaiso	77.34	12.54
13	Monmouth-NJ	77.68	12.2
13	Vermont	77.84	12.04
12	Texas-Arlington	78.15	11.73
13	Princeton	78.17	11.71
14	East Tennessee State(ETS	78.75	11.13
12	NC Wilmington	79.82	10.06
12	Nevada	79.93	9.95
11	Middle Tennessee	80.76	9.12
11	Providence	81.12	8.76
7	Southern California	81.32	8.56
12	Illinois State	81.39	8.49
10	Seton Hall	81.89	7.99
7	Virginia Tech	82.56	7.32
10	California	82.78	7.1
10	Michigan State	82.84	7.04
11	TCU	82.86	7.02
9	VCU	82.89	6.99
10	Arkansas	82.9	6.98
7	Northwestern	83.46	6.42
11	Syracuse	83.56	6.32
6	Maryland	83.84	6.04
11	Kansas State	84.04	5.84
9	Dayton	84.08	5.8
5	Minnesota	84.31	5.57
11	Marquette	84.37	5.51
8	Xavier-Ohio	84.73	5.15
8	South Carolina	84.92	4.96
8	Miami-Florida	85.53	4.35
9	Michigan	85.62	4.26
6	Saint Mary's-Cal.	87.05	2.83
5	Notre Dame	87.52	2.36
7	SMU	87.57	2.31
4	Butler	87.69	2.19
6	Creighton	87.71	2.17
9	Oklahoma State	87.75	2.13
2	Arizona	88.2	1.68
8	Iowa State	88.3	1.58
4	Cincinnati	88.42	1.46
3	Florida State	88.7	1.18
2	Baylor	89.83	0.05
4	UCLA	89.95	-0.07
5	Wisconsin	89.99	-0.11
2	Oregon	90.25	-0.37
4	Purdue	90.78	-0.9
6	Virginia	90.93	-1.05
3	Duke	91.53	-1.65
3	Florida	91.96	-2.08
2	Louisville	92.38	-2.5
1	Kansas	92.42	-2.54
3	Kentucky	92.68	-2.8
1	Villanova	92.82	-2.94
1	North Carolina	93.48	-3.6
5	West Virginia	93.7	-3.82
1	Gonzaga	94.58	-4.7

Quick question "im4wsu"...Is the field on the right side how many points by which WSU is projected to win?

Or is it some other rating of which I am unaware?

[wichshock65]

@JonRothstein

Wichita State and Illinois State look like dangerous NCAA teams, but so did Saint Mary's last season. Can't leave things up to chance.

[Cdizzle]

@JonRothstein

Wichita State and Illinois State look like dangerous NCAA teams, but so did Saint Mary's last season. Can't leave things up to chance.

Orrrrrrr

Put Saint Mary's in the tournament last year.

The ask needs to be for better performance from the Selection Committee, not undefeated seasons from non-P5 teams.

[SHOCKvalue]

Quick question "im4wsu"...Is the field on the right side how many points by which WSU is projected to win?

Or is it some other rating of which I am unaware?

The two numbers on the right are Sagarin Rating (on the left) and WSU's predicted margin of victory or loss versus that team (on the right).

Basically, WSU is either favored, or within two points of all but eight teams from that entire projected field, but yet some think we're not worthy.

[im4wsu]

Quick question "im4wsu"...Is the field on the right side how many points by which WSU is projected to win?

Or is it some other rating of which I am unaware?

Yes, it is the difference between WSU 89.88 rating and the number rating for the opponent. There is no adjustment for home court since it assumes tournament games are neutral court games.

[AndShock]

@JonRothstein

Wichita State and Illinois State look like dangerous NCAA teams, but so did Saint Mary's last season. Can't leave things up to chance.

Now I know Rothstein hasn't watched any of ISUr's games.

[Cdizzle]

Now I know Rothstein hasn't watched any of ISUr's games.

I think many are making the mistake of underestimating ISU's Top 15 defense.

It's fine to not like ISU and to hope they lose so they don't share the championship, but a record and defensive numbers like ISU has does not happen by accident.