2016-17 Media Love Thread

[Shocker1976]

Earnie Moore averaged 18 ppg his senior year in the valley of death -- 4 of the top five teams in the country, cincinnati, bradley, wichita, and st.louis, with drake not far behind -- on a team with stallworth averaging 26 ppg and a first team all american. He was said to be leading the country in steals, although they didn't keep that stat then. Earnie was also quicker than fvv and and ever bit as good a ball handler. I'll give you it's a close call, but having seen both Earnie and fvv play there entire eligibility, i'll side with Earnie.

Me too!

[lemuel777]

Earnie Moore averaged 18 ppg his senior year in the valley of death -- 4 of the top five teams in the country, cincinnati, bradley, wichita, and st.louis, with drake not far behind -- on a team with stallworth averaging 26 ppg and a first team all american. He was said to be leading the country in steals, although they didn't keep that stat then. Earnie was also quicker than fvv and and ever bit as good a ball handler. I'll give you it's a close call, but having seen both Earnie and fvv play there entire eligibility, i'll side with Earnie.

I never saw Earnie play, but if Fred would have had a front court player as good as Stallworth, I don't think we would be questioning Fred's Senior year stats.

[shockmonster]

I never saw Earnie play, but if Fred would have had a front court player as good as Stallworth, I don't think we would be questioning Fred's Senior year stats.

Dave was both front and perimeter court player which made him unique. He was the first of the stretch fours. He could lead the break with handles, shoot the 3 before there was a 3 point shot, score inside, and rebound. Fred has had some good players to play with, but you are right, Stallworth was a special player that would have helped anyone. For comparisons, with a 3 point, how many points would he have averaged.

[Shocker1976]

I never saw Earnie play, but if Fred would have had a front court player as good as Stallworth, I don't think we would be questioning Fred's Senior year stats.

A very fair point, as is the point that the MVC in which EM played was several light years ahead of the quality of the MVC in which FVV played.

[KC Shox]

As far as an all-time starting five:
VanVleet
Baker
McDaniel
Stallworth
Carr

That 5 probably doesn't top many of the blue bloods with multiple guys in the Naismith Hall of Fame, but that lineup is a very impressive group.

I'd pick Perez over Baker (1A and 1B)

[WstateU]

As far as an all-time starting five:
VanVleet
Baker
McDaniel
Stallworth
Carr

That 5 probably doesn't top many of the blue bloods with multiple guys in the Naismith Hall of Fame, but that lineup is a very impressive group.

I'd pick Perez over Baker (1A and 1B)

You're entitled to your own opinion...

[WuShock Reaper]

"The 25 most intriguing non-league games of the 2016-17 season" - Yahoo Sports

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-25-most-intriguing-non-league-games-of-the-2016-17-season-125036028.html

Made the list of top games, but thinking we could get another top game if we get by LSU in the Battle 4 Atlantis tournament.

"...20. Wichita State vs. Oklahoma, Dec. 10 (Oklahoma City): Will Oklahoma remain a Big 12 contender now that national player of the year Buddy Hield is in the NBA? Can Wichita State avoid a steep decline now that longtime stalwarts Ron Baker and Fred VanVleet have graduated? This intriguing matchup should offer some early answers as to where these two stand...."

[WuShock Reaper]

"My preseason MVC men's hoops ballot" - Evansville Courier Press

Daniel Allar, Sports Writer
October 12, 2016 - 7:24 p.m. CDT

http://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/blogs/ue/2016/10/12/my-preseason-mvc-mens-hoops-ballot/91972924/\

"The Missouri Valley Conference has begun collecting ballots for its preseason men's basketball poll and all-conference teams. In an offseason of massive roster churn -- especially among top players -- the ballot was especially tough to fill out this year.

But in the interest of transparency (and seeing how fired up some of you can get about meaningless rankings in mid-October), I'll go public with my choices. Here goes..."

ORDER OF FINISH
1. Wichita State
2. Northern Iowa
3. Illinois State
4. Indiana State
5. Missouri State
6. Evansville
7. Southern Illinois
8. Loyola
9. Bradley
10. Drake

ALL-CONFERENCE TEAM

1. Jeremy Morgan, UNI
2. Brenton Scott, Indiana State
3. Paris Lee, Illinois State
4. Shaquille Morris, Wichita State
5. Ryan Taylor, Evansville

[Stickboy46]

"My preseason MVC men's hoops ballot" - Evansville Courier Press

Daniel Allar, Sports Writer
October 12, 2016 - 7:24 p.m. CDT

http://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/blogs/ue/2016/10/12/my-preseason-mvc-mens-hoops-ballot/91972924/\

"The Missouri Valley Conference has begun collecting ballots for its preseason men's basketball poll and all-conference teams. In an offseason of massive roster churn -- especially among top players -- the ballot was especially tough to fill out this year.

But in the interest of transparency (and seeing how fired up some of you can get about meaningless rankings in mid-October), I'll go public with my choices. Here goes..."

ORDER OF FINISH
1. Wichita State
2. Northern Iowa
3. Illinois State
4. Indiana State
5. Missouri State
6. Evansville
7. Southern Illinois
8. Loyola
9. Bradley
10. Drake

ALL-CONFERENCE TEAM

1. Jeremy Morgan, UNI
2. Brenton Scott, Indiana State
3. Paris Lee, Illinois State
4. Shaquille Morris, Wichita State
5. Ryan Taylor, Evansville

... Ryan Taylor over McDuffie ?

[Dan]

McIntosh at Il State should be on the list as well, take off Brenton Scott

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Not having Duff on your preseason all-conference team is just downright strange.

[ShockerFever]

Who TF is Ryan Taylor?

[WuShock Reaper]

"2016-17 Missouri Valley Conference season preview" - The Catch and Shoot

By Jesse Kramer
October 11, 2016

http://thecatchandshoot.com/2016-17-missouri-valley-conference-season-preview/

"Is anyone surprised Wichita State is the Missouri Valley Conference title favorite for the fourth straight year? Even with star guards Fred VanVleet and Ron Baker graduating, the Shockers have an excellent backcourt and possibly their best front line since 2012-13 Final Four run.

But the gap has narrowed between Wichita State and the rest of the conference, and that could make for an exciting 2016-17 season..."

Preseason Rankings
1. Wichita State
2. Illinois State
3. Northern Iowa
4. Missouri State
5. Loyola
6. Southern Illinois
7. Indiana State
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Drake

Preseason All-League 1st Team
Milton Doyle, Loyola
Markis McDuffie, Wichita State
Jeremy Morgan, Northern Iowa
Shaquille Morris, Wichita State
Brenton Scott, Indiana State

[Shocktoberfest]

"2016-17 Missouri Valley Conference season preview" - The Catch and Shoot

By Jesse Kramer
October 11, 2016

http://thecatchandshoot.com/2016-17-missouri-valley-conference-season-preview/

"Is anyone surprised Wichita State is the Missouri Valley Conference title favorite for the fourth straight year? Even with star guards Fred VanVleet and Ron Baker graduating, the Shockers have an excellent backcourt and possibly their best front line since 2012-13 Final Four run.

But the gap has narrowed between Wichita State and the rest of the conference, and that could make for an exciting 2016-17 season..."

Preseason Rankings
1. Wichita State
2. Illinois State
3. Northern Iowa
4. Missouri State
5. Loyola
6. Southern Illinois
7. Indiana State
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Drake

Preseason All-League 1st Team
Milton Doyle, Loyola
Markis McDuffie, Wichita State
Jeremy Morgan, Northern Iowa
Shaquille Morris, Wichita State
Brenton Scott, Indiana State

It's good to see they got coach of the year out of the way. That's nice.

Also, it makes me smile to see ZB get props for his defense. I'm hoping to see him have a huge year. It's getting close ya'll.

[wufan]

McIntosh at Il State should be on the list as well, take off Brenton Scott

I believe Scott is the only returning player that made either first or second team All-MVC last year.