2016-17 Bracketology

[Stickboy46]

My biggest problem with the selection committee is the use of records vs the top 50/100. I could go into why but Ken Pomeroy explains it better than I could here: http://kenpom.com/blog/tiers-of-joy/

This quote surprised me a bit.

Beating the 90th-ranked team on the road is about as difficult as beating the 50th-best team on a neutral floor, which is roughly as difficult as beating the 20th-best team on one’s home floor. (The exact relationship can vary by season.)

[WUpigsooie]

This quote surprised me a bit.

Yea the range is a lot bigger than I would have thought. But it further illustrates the point.

[ShockerFever]

I think its pretty hilarious that we still put so much stock in human voting polls when there are much better options out there.

You can thank ESPN and other various media outlets who use them. I agree though especially since a lot of them are just complete morons that could easily be replaced by a common Shockernetter.

[ShockingButTrue]

WSU got smoked by one of the Big 12's bottom 4, at home no less.
The Big 12's cellar dweller gave WSU all it could handle.

Let's not act like going 8-0, 7-1, or even 6-2 vs the bottom 4 of the Big 12 is some small feat. That's just another variation of the crap we dealt with when people called 31-0 "no big deal" back in 2014, or this year when people will write off 17-1 as "eh, didn't win enough vs elite teams... send them to the NIT".

The Valley's cellar dweller gave the Cyclones all they could handle. And beat Butler. It won't get WSU any consideration with the committee. No?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

The Valley's cellar dweller gave the Cyclones all they could handle. And beat Butler. It won't get WSU any consideration with the committee. No?

ISUb has a KenPom of 201.
All 10 Big 12 teams are ranked in the KenPom top 80. 8 of the 10 teams are ranked top 50.

I'm not trying to draw conclusions based on fluke occurrences. I'm actually doing just the opposite.

[Cdizzle]

They still don't play any defense.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Here's a crazy stat.

Bad loses... aka... losses to teams outside KenPom's top 100.

ISUb (all games) - 10
ISUb (non con only) - 4
Big 12 combined (all games) - 3

[Cdizzle]

Here's a crazy stat.

Bad loses... aka... losses to teams outside KenPom's top 100.

ISUb (all games) - 10
ISUb (non con only) - 4
Big 12 combined (all games) - 3

Now, now, you're omitting the nuance you complain about.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Now, now, you're omitting the nuance you complain about.

No, because I fully admit that is a narrow stat that is mostly just fun/interesting. I wouldn't expect anyone to draw conclusions from it alone in isolation.

[jdshock]

Every year I'm told "this is the best the Big 12 has ever been." And every year I hear KU fans say "this is a down year because of X (insert injury, player being suspended, players leaving, etc.)."

And every year KU keeps winning the stupid conference.

[Cdizzle]

Every year I'm told "this is the best the Big 12 has ever been." And every year I hear KU fans say "this is a down year because of X (insert injury, player being suspended, players leaving, etc.)."

And every year KU keeps winning the stupid conference.

The Big12 is terrible at defense. KU is usually OK at defense. That's pretty much all you need to know.

[ShockerPrez]

Every year I'm told "this is the best the Big 12 has ever been." And every year I hear KU fans say "this is a down year because of X (insert injury, player being suspended, players leaving, etc.)."

And every year KU keeps winning the stupid conference.

And a top 3 team gets bounced in the NCAA way early.

[Dan]

It would be interesting to play OSU again and see how we do, but we did a good job of making them look like title contenders.

[ShockerPhi]

And a top 3 team gets bounced in the NCAA way early.

This is my favorite part of it all

[WSUwatcher]

I see from PaulS a comment from Jerry Facepalm that if WSU finishes with four losses he's confident they'll get into the tournament. How stunningly clever of him.