2016-17 Bracketology

[Triticum aestivum L.]

I love it how these pundits just keep on adding "Tackling Fuel" to the fire.

That's right, piss us off - it seems to work so well! Hahahahaha

[1972Shocker]

I love it how these pundits just keep on adding "Tackling Fuel" to the fire.

That's right, piss us off - it seems to work so well! Hahahahaha

Hey, if it gets them clicks that is all that counts. They coud care less what people think of them.

[shockmonster]

Jerry Palm isn't even trying to hide the fact that he doesn't like WSU anymore.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...fb_na_txt_0001

He forgets quickly. He said the same thing last year,saying we weren't worthy. I think we were at least his last four out. Then we took a horrible seed and beat Arizona and Vandy.

[shoxilla]

If we ranked the bracketologists would Jerry Palm be a First Four Out?

[molly jabali]

If we ranked the bracketologists would Jerry Palm be a First Four Out?

he would be a never in...

[WheatShock]

Palm would be Northwestern. The misnamed school that's never gotten to play. They give their fans hope once a decade then come crashing back down to reality.

[Fafhrd Mouser]

Add Shelby Mast of USA Today to the idiot list.

[RoyalShock]

This is the whole argument as to why we are trying to get into a better conference. We can list all the arguments in our favor we want, and even claim the talking heads are being lazy, but as long as teams like Clemson get 10+ chances - just within their conference - for top-50 RPI wins (and even more opportunities for top-100 wins), and WSU might get two (often none, or maybe 4-5 top-100 chances, depending on the year), this is going to be the narrative we have to put up with.

Bottom line is that we didn't get a signature non-conference win. The only remarkable trait on our resume is overall record. Depending on how many members of the committee look at the advanced metrics - and how much sway they have - it will be relatively easy for them to pass WSU over - with just one top-100/50 win - for a team with 8+ wins over the top-100 (3 over top-50), even if they have a .500 (or close) record, ie. Clemson.

We need to get into a better conference or if we don't, hope next year's committee has success with their use of advanced metrics.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Their advanced metrics show they belong (Pom 17, Sagarin 18, KPI 34, RPI 53), but when you’re 1-4 vs. RPI top 100 teams and 19-0 vs. 100+, that’s not ideal."

Advanced metrics are clearly too advanced for SportingNews.com

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

*continues stretching*
*takes deep breaths*
*prepares for a loooong month of refuting idiots spouting "...but 1-4, but 1-4"*

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Worthy of pointing out... there is now a greater than 50% chance that WSU will get a 2nd top 50 win by Selection Sunday, either by Colorado State (most likely), Tulsa, or Loyola moving up between now and then. Basically, if we are talking "what if they win out until Sunday and then lose", the right framing is to assume 2 top 100 wins, not 1.

(I'll be pleasantly surprised if a single media outlet catches and includes this fact in any upcoming articles)

[ShockCrazy]

Worthy of pointing out... there is now a greater than 50% chance that WSU will get a 2nd top 50 win by Selection Sunday, either by Colorado State (most likely), Tulsa, or Loyola moving up between now and then. Basically, if we are talking "what if they win out until Sunday and then lose", the right framing is to assume 2 top 100 wins, not 1.

(I'll be pleasantly surprised if a single media outlet catches and includes this fact in any upcoming articles)

I would even be willing to bet we have 2 more top 100 wins. CSU seems incredibly likely to finished top 100, in fact now project to finish 99(Just need to win the two favored games and one of 3 coin flip games). And Tulsa also just needs to take care of the favored games and steal one other to likely finish top 100. Loyola is done, they have to win out, which if that happens it's irrelevant.

[LandStander]

(I'll be pleasantly surprised if a single media outlet catches and includes this fact in any upcoming articles)

I always found it humorous that experts "projections" were based on if the season ended that day.

[Cdizzle]

I always found it humorous that experts "projections" were based on if the season ended that day.

I don't mind that as much as the clown that is willing to project certain outcomes (say, a 29-5 WSU record), but then still bloviate about the current RPI, not the projected resulting RPI of his projected outcome.

Either make the argument "If it ended today, I'd take this team over this team," or when doing projected outcomes, finish your math. It's not that challenging, and not that inaccurate this late in the season.

[Dan]

In addition to records, RPI, SOS, etc., the committee also looks at things subjectively, such as "is Team X trending up or down?" If we run the table to Sunday in St Louis, they're won't be many hotter teams in the country than WSU.