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  • Originally posted by BULLSHIP View Post
    You can all be USF football fans if you want. All aboard!
    Count me in from Daytona Beach.

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    • in my mind I am singing the George Michael song, "Gotta have faith ...,, Baby!
      SHOCKERS & AWE

      "Go Ahead, Try To Jinx Us" ~ The Monsters Of The Midwest

      "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
      gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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      • Originally posted by calfan View Post
        I believe that Bardo will bring back football in the next 10 years. I know all the obstacle. He will get it done.
        Shazam
        SHOCKERS & AWE

        "Go Ahead, Try To Jinx Us" ~ The Monsters Of The Midwest

        "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
        gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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        • Originally posted by calfan View Post
          I believe that Bardo will bring back football in the next 10 years. I know all the obstacle. He will get it done.
          Board of Regents will IMO be his biggest obstacle. Fortunately Age Discrimination Laws prevent his forced ouster (witness Phog Allen at KU) but the BoR can always cite such relevant concerns as diminished capacity to maintain active leadership.

          I hope Bardo remains WSU's President for the next decade but I am doubtful.

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          • Most smaller schools don't get much attendance at football games unless they're a powerhouse, which is one of the concerns I hear quite a bit. But I think the Wichita faithful would strongly support even a struggling young Shocker football team. Especially if everyone is walking into a renovated Cessna Stadium. I'm all for it.

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            • Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post
              That's ridiculous. GM can't coach both sports!

              Steve Eck can coach basketball.
              NO ,,,, just NO ,,when 3G does move on or retire that is NOT the direction the men's basketball program should go. NOT EVEN CLOSE
              From the road I listen (Tune In radio) at home I watch ( season Ticks )

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              • Originally posted by OTR Shockfan View Post
                NO ,,,, just NO ,,when 3G does move on or retire that is NOT the direction the men's basketball program should go. NOT EVEN CLOSE
                Check your...

                "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                • For now I am rooting for our conference soul sister that made this possible ...

                  "Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!"
                  Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                  • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                    For now I am rooting for our conference soul sister that made this possible ...

                    "Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!"
                    Notre Dame?
                    People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

                    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
                    Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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                    • Originally posted by shock View Post
                      Notre Dame?
                      Yeah I guess conference sister is stewed in wrong sauce, but I was under the impression that they would round out the AAC schedule in football. Also stewed in wrong sauce. So who is rounding that schedule out?
                      Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                      • Originally posted by OTR Shockfan View Post
                        NO ,,,, just NO ,,when 3G does move on or retire that is NOT the direction the men's basketball program should go. NOT EVEN CLOSE
                        Surprised that line still had bait on it.

                        :)
                        "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                        • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                          Yeah I guess conference sister is stewed in wrong sauce, but I was under the impression that they would round out the AAC schedule in football. Also stewed in wrong sauce. So who is rounding that schedule out?
                          You know what- we could get millionaire Regis Philbin to help us fund football since he is a big time Notre Dame supporter.
                          SHOCKERS & AWE

                          "Go Ahead, Try To Jinx Us" ~ The Monsters Of The Midwest

                          "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
                          gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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                          • A little off the topic, but what WSU does need to start is soccer. Wichita State needs more revenue generating sports and I think soccer could help with that. It's not a question of whether or not WSU should have soccer, but when is the soonest it can be started.

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                            • Originally posted by calfan View Post
                              A little off the topic, but what WSU does need to start is soccer. Wichita State needs more revenue generating sports and I think soccer could help with that. It's not a question of whether or not WSU should have soccer, but when is the soonest it can be started.
                              Unlikely that Soccer would be a revenue generating sport. Yes there would be revenues but I would be shocked if those would cover expenses like every other one of our sports other than Men's Basketball would most likely be a money loser. There has been quite a bit discussion on this in the last month since the move to the American heated up. You can find soccer attendance numbers for Soccer on the discussion of other sports to the AAC threads on the Men's and Women's Sports forums.

                              Now if the Shockers would bring back football and assumoing Title IX is still in place then women's soccer and a couple of other sports would have to be added. If it becomes obvious that football will not be coming back to WSU then you might see both Men's and Women's soccer at some point in the future. But just like football WSU will want to digest the current pig in the python as Dr. Bardo stated and make sure all of their existing programs are on sound footing and competitive in The American before they take on anything else.

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                              • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                                Unlikely that Soccer would be a revenue generating sport. Yes there would be revenues but I would be shocked if those would cover expenses like every other one of our sports other than Men's Basketball would most likely be a money loser. There has been quite a bit discussion on this in the last month since the move to the American heated up. You can find soccer attendance numbers for Soccer on the discussion of other sports to the AAC threads on the Men's and Women's Sports forums.

                                Now if the Shockers would bring back football and assumoing Title IX is still in place then women's soccer and a couple of other sports would have to be added. If it becomes obvious that football will not be coming back to WSU then you might see both Men's and Women's soccer at some point in the future. But just like football WSU will want to digest the current pig in the python as Dr. Bardo stated and make sure all of their existing programs are on sound footing and competitive in The American before they take on anything else.
                                Dunno either, but we could pencil in some numbers ...

                                If we assume that soccer is super popular in Wichita (it really is, relative to most other towns), then let's shoot high with an average attendance of 3500.

                                13 games x 3500 x $10/seat (?) = $455,000

                                With 9.9 scholarships at $10,000(?) per year, that's $99,000. You add in a $80,000 coach's salary, plus maybe a couple $40k assistants/managers, you are looking at $160,000ish for staff. That leaves quite a bit of room for field leasing (Friends?), equipment and travel expenses.


                                Of course you have to look at the low end too ... assume attendance is only $2000. At that point you are near break even with only salary and scholarships, but still have other operational costs eating into ya.

                                Any idea what the real scholarship cost is per athlete?
                                Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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