NBA Draft

[Dave Stalwart]

If Stutz didn't get drafted, neither will Mock. I really thought Stutz had a shot, and I learned my lesson. Stutz is better than Mock. Mock will have a similar career to Stutz in Euro. He's still going strong after several years over there.

[Play Angry]

Mock would have crushed it to the tune of a 7 year career in the NBA averaging about 3 ppg in the late 80s and early 90s.

Cleanthony would also have easily put up double figs for a half dozen years during that same era.

[im4wsu]

If Stutz didn't get drafted, neither will Mock. I really thought Stutz had a shot, and I learned my lesson. Stutz is better than Mock. Mock will have a similar career to Stutz in Euro. He's still going strong after several years over there.

At least in Europe they will be able to pronounce his name!

[Dave Stalwart]

At least in Europe they will be able to pronounce his name!

Yeah I think he ended up getting reduced to "Giddy" Mock when wall was said and done. Too many syllables for the U.S. We needed to dumb it down to our level.

[Shocker1976]

I would like to see all three get drafted and make a roster next season. I don't see it happening. Eventually, all those guys will play in the NBA but it will look more like the Toure Murry route.

Something that is not understood all that well about the NBA is the fact that there is very little player turnover. As opposed to football which sees a high roster churn every year, the NBA is exactly opposite. The structure of guaranteed contracts in the NBA encourages teams to stick with current players and avoid bringing in new talent.

NFL teams will cut a productive player just so they don't have to pay him, NBA teams will keep an unproductive player around so they don't have to pay him AND another guy to sit at the end of the bench.

So unless a player is drafted in the 1st round, it's really hard to find an open roster spot on any team. Sometimes it takes a couple of years and a series of 10-day contracts for guys like Fred, Ron and Perry to catch on.

Very informative post; as I do not follow the NBA I was unaware of the information you provided.

[OregonShocker]

I would like to see all three get drafted and make a roster next season. I don't see it happening. Eventually, all those guys will play in the NBA but it will look more like the Toure Murry route.

Something that is not understood all that well about the NBA is the fact that there is very little player turnover. As opposed to football which sees a high roster churn every year, the NBA is exactly opposite. The structure of guaranteed contracts in the NBA encourages teams to stick with current players and avoid bringing in new talent.

NFL teams will cut a productive player just so they don't have to pay him, NBA teams will keep an unproductive player around so they don't have to pay him AND another guy to sit at the end of the bench.

So unless a player is drafted in the 1st round, it's really hard to find an open roster spot on any team. Sometimes it takes a couple of years and a series of 10-day contracts for guys like Fred, Ron and Perry to catch on.

It might seem that way, but that's not really accurate. Go to any team's roster and you will note 3 things: veterans (5+ years in the league) and a slew of 1-3 year players, and names you've never heard of. If you just listen for the "all star" names, then you miss the other names. There is turnover, and it isn't just first round guys. But, you have to have 3 attributes: willing to sit the bench and get limited PT; work your a$$ off for that opportunity (have some kinda benefit for the staff to keep you around); take MUCH lower pay. Believe it or not, a LOT of guys don't have all three. The big question is whether they have the "something" that a coach is willing to pay for to keep you on the team even though you average 3.6 minutes a game.

[1979Shocker]

I don't think either Ron or Fred will get drafted, but if I had to pick one of them to get drafted, I would pick Ron as being more likely. He had a good showing in the Pan Am games and the Senior All Star game. Fred, unfortunately, didn't get picked for the Pan Am team and didn't play in the All Star game.

[Kung Wu]

Which NFL team scoops up Wessel, and what position does he play? He could totally pull a Tony Gonzalez.

[ShoxRoxMySox]

I hope Ron or Fred end up on the Spurs somehow, someway, an organization that can actually support and develop them. Poor Cle...

[choida]

Which NFL team scoops up Wessel, and what position does he play? He could totally pull a Tony Gonzalez.

Do blue birds sing in a whisky stream as well?

[choida]

I don't think either Ron or Fred will get drafted, but if I had to pick one of them to get drafted, I would pick Ron as being more likely. He had a good showing in the Pan Am games and the Senior All Star game. Fred, unfortunately, didn't get picked for the Pan Am team and didn't play in the All Star game.

Fred will try D League, even euro, China whatever, coaching will be his thing sooner rather then later

[small tyme baller]

Fred, Ron, Perry, Selden, Diallo, Greene, Ballentine, Beane, Mockevicius..............Who gets drafted? Anybody go in the first round? Who in the second round? Who doesn't hear their name called?

Fred - No, my guess is Europe
Ron - Late 2nd RD, D-League
Perry - No, D-League or Europe
Selden - Latter H of 2nd RD
Diallo - 2nd RD, no idea where
Greene - LMFAO, NO
Balentine - No, Europe
Big E - No, Europe .... And I must disagree w/Dave on this one, as SR's ... I'd take Big E > Stutz 9 outta 10 games
Beane - No

[Eric]

Fred will try D League, even euro, China whatever, coaching will be his thing sooner rather then later

I agree with this, and as much as I'd like to see him on the WSU bench, I'd guess he would be the kind of guy to coach youth in Rockford.

[Onegreatracer]

I mean, the Lakers need a new SG

[Kung Wu]

Do blue birds sing in a whisky stream as well?

I don't know this reference. But it sounds like you're implying I'm on drugs. I'm not, but I would definitely take a splash in a whisky stream, should that opportunity arise!

Now back to Evan. Maybe he's more of a weak-side linebacker, until he puts on his post-college weight. He can jump, anticipate the short pass (and pick it off), and we all know if there's a fumble who is going to jump on the grenade first. Yeah, linebacker.