Kellen hits a nerve

[ShockerFever]

The part that shocked me the most was the guy flat out saying that he doesn't think seeds higher than 4 should even get a chance to compete.

But that made his point extra confounding since Nova was a 2 seed, making his thought pretty much irrelevant.

[shockmonster]

Kellen would do well to stay out of this kind of food fight.

Ultimately, it will spill over onto his dad. Not good in my opinion.

Did he say something new? I only saw one comment from him that had nothing to do with KU.

I doubt he thought that KU fans would be offended about a comment about North Carolina and Syracuse. This is not Kellen's fault in my opinion. For most of those people you are talking about being offended, he may have to say nothing to ensure that they aren't offended.


Now if they responded to his tweet and he responded back, you may be correct but I didn't see that.

[WuDrWu]

Funny how for not caring they can spend two pages on a tweet that want even referencing them but Syracuse and UNC.

Perhaps they know they do in fact cheat, regularly, and the truth stings?

[pogo]

Well its not like he just said those Cheating Bastards that were in the Elite 8 and Kellen meant the cuse and the tarheels only but the hawksuckers thought they were included in the cheating bastard part.

[jdmee]

Wouldn't tweeting back to Kellen the article on WSU sanctions just prove his point that blue bloods can escape sanctions? How many of the WSU violations, in fact would all of WSU's violations put together, match North Carolina's decades of Academic Fraud amongst every single one of their athletic programs, to which the NCAA initially said "No issues with us, its an accreditation issue, keep playing"

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Did he say something new? I only saw one comment from him that had nothing to do with KU.

Kellen posts A LOT of similar comments on Twitter. Several posters in the KU thread identified a trend, not merely a single comment. Complaining about cheaters, violations, unfair treatment by the NCAA, etc. is all reasonable to an extent, but I think what @Ricardo del Rio and many others (myself included) are saying is that there is a wisdom to self restraint some times. Kellen may be 100% right in everything he has ever said. I haven't read it all and can't comment categorically to all his posts. However, even if he only speaks truth, not all truth needs spoken in all circumstances by all individuals. Kellen is tied to Gregg, and even beyond that to the program as a team manager. He would do well to tone down the public attacks on the NCAA.

This is not a legal issue, or necessarily a moral issue, but rather a discernment and wisdom issue.

EDIT: None of the above takes away from the fact that most of those responses at the phog are juvenile and scummy. That should go without saying and is much easier to identify than any specific advice to Kellen on guidelines for public comments.

[gdb620]

That 1982 article is outdated, anyway. WSU is no longer #1. SMU has surged to the top with 10 major infractions, followed by Arizona State (9), and WSU tied with Oklahoma for third (8).

[pie n eye]

He's a college kid on Twitter talking about basketball. Basketball. I don't see the big deal.

[_kai_]

>Be a KU fan
>Head nod the Walmart Greeter as he mumbles "welcome to walmart"
>Shuffle over to men's apparel in nike sandles with socks
>Pick out the dankest blue and crimson shirt
>Self check out
>Wait on attendant to clear the error that you didn't bag correctly
>Drive home
>Check Kellen Marshall's Twitter
>Post on the Phog about being elite, they shouldn't even let these scrubs in the tournament
>State that if they didn't let all these scrub teams in the tournament KU would have 4-5 more Natty's
>Crack open another Natty Light
>Watch the Final Four like the other 347 scrubs in D-1 that didn't make the Final Four
>Be a KU fan

[wu_shizzle]

>Be a KU fan
>Head nod the Walmart Greeter as he mumbles "welcome to walmart"
>Shuffle over to men's apparel in nike sandles with socks
>Pick out the dankest blue and crimson shirt
>Self check out
>Wait on attendant to clear the error that you didn't bag correctly
>Drive home
>Check Kellen Marshall's Twitter
>Post on the Phog about being elite, they shouldn't even let these scrubs in the tournament
>State that if they didn't let all these scrub teams in the tournament KU would have 4-5 more Natty's
>Crack open another Natty Light
>Watch the Final Four like the other 347 scrubs in D-1 that didn't make the Final Four
>Be a KU fan

This assumes that the average poster at Phog is over 21.

I'm not willing to concede that many of them are old enough to legally drive themselves to Wal-Mart.

[Heinro]

Guys, if the NCAA just didn't allow 75% of the teams in the tournament, KU would have 4 or 5 more titles since '88.

If you can't beat em, join errrrrrr, don't let them play you.

This is a fallacy. If they didn't allow 75% of the tourney in, KU instead of getting upset by teams like Bucknell, Bradley, and Stanford, would have just gotten embarrassed by an even more superior team. KU is the most consistently overrated team in the tourney. One thing I found funny all year was all the flak Villanova got for its last few first weekend exits, but nothing is mentioned of KU. Makes me happy to know Villanova got to show who the real overrated team is.

Fred and Ron were 9-4 in the tourney as 9, 1, 7, and 11 seeds respectively. Perry was 7-4 in the tourney as 1, 2, 2, and 1 seeds respectively. KU should be embarrassed.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

He's a college kid on Twitter talking about basketball. Basketball. I don't see the big deal.

He's not just a college kid. That's the whole point. He is Gregg Marshall's son and is himself on the staff as a team manager.

It just doesn't seem wise to go on repeated public rants criticizing an organization your employer is a part of. I'm not saying he needs to refrain completely, just that some discretion as to how much, how often, and how harsh would be wise. This applies to any employee of any organization.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

KU is the most consistently overrated team in the tourney.

The actual data would tend to disagree with you.

[Kel Varnsen]

He's not just a college kid. That's the whole point. He is Gregg Marshall's son and is himself on the staff as a team manager.

It just doesn't seem wise to go on repeated public rants criticizing an organization your employer is a part of. I'm not saying he needs to refrain completely, just that some discretion as to how much, how often, and how harsh would be wise. This applies to any employee of any organization.

This is the same reason I don't plaster political stuff all over my social media accounts. Do I have strongly held beliefs? Yes. Do I believe in them? Yes. Is it beneficial to me, my family, or my employer to post those things? Probably not.

[Kel Varnsen]

I did enjoy this tweet, though:

@ShockerHoops:: It's that time of year again, Vandy fans reporting flight headed to Wichita.

@KelMoney24: @ShockerHoops: lol well we are in Arizona so idk who that jet is going to get???