Selection Sunday Thread

[Stickboy46]

From Gary Parrish

"Every eligible Power 5 school with a top-54 RPI made the NCAA Tournament. But eight non-Power 5 schools with top-54 RPIs did not."

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

i don't think having to play the extra game is a bad deal either. By Tuesday, we won't have played in 10 days. It'll be good to have the "tune-up game" vs. Vandy before playing a tougher opponent.

And if WSU doesn't beat Vandy they don't even play in the first round. I'd take the first game on Thursday vs the play-in garbage every single time.

[wsushox1]

Don't lose to UNI twice and don't lose to IlSU Red after blowing a big lead.

That simple.

[shoxlax]

I have no patience for either of you tonight.

1) No Willie, UNI wasn't ahead of WSU. WSU came in 43, UNI 46.
2) Fever, I already explained to you how close on the S-Curve doesn't have to mean close overall. Let me spell it out for you.

The S-Curve showed
43 WSU - atlarge
44 Gonzaga - auto
45 Tulsa - atlarge (last in)
46 UNI - auto (best S-curve spot of the "undeserving autos", RPI 70, KenPom 76)
47 Chattanooga - auto (RPI 50, KenPom 107)

UNI at 46 wouldn't have received a bid without winning the MVC tourney. UNI was simply the best of the "undeserving" teams from 11 all the way through 16 seeds. St. Mary's, Monmouth, Valpo, San Diego St., Florida, South Carolina, St. Bonaventure, and potentially another DOZEN other teams could have easily been ahead of UNI. For all we know, if the committee ranked the top 100, it was WSU 43, UNI 65, Chattanooga 75, and so on.

Just stop with the nonsense.

I get all of that, but the system is flawed IMHO when an at large has a play in game and an auto bid winner that wouldn't be in otherwise doesn't.

Not your fault or mine. Just wondered why they dont make all of the last eight seeds compete in the play in round

[ShockerFever]

Don't lose to UNI twice and don't lose to IlSU Red after blowing a big lead.

That simple.

I tend to agree about the blowing the big leads thing.

However, to expect a team to be perfect through 21 games is asinine. This "WSU isn't allowed to lose ever" crap kinda gets old.

[kcshocker11]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14964029/first-look-all-68-march-madness-teams-2016-ncaa-tournament

The wild card

One of the best 15 teams in the country barely made it into the NCAA tournament. You won't believe what happens next.

29.

Wichita State Shockers
In their four years at Wichita State,Fred VanVleet and Ron Bakerhave played in a Final Four, engineered a 35-1 campaign and gone to the Sweet 16. VanVleet's early-season injury ensured this team's résumé would never live up to its actual basketball ability, which is how the nation's best per-possession defense enters the tournament as one of its most underrated (and underseeded).

[readyletsgo]

This, is my biggest bullshit. Bullshit on the tournament.

Butler fan here. We will correct this issue for you on Thursday!

[shoxlax]

Also who did the mayor of Dayton bribe to get these games every year at the expense and inconvenience of everybody else. Why can't Vandy and us just play in Providence?

[ShockerFever]

Butler fan here. We will correct this issue for you on Thursday!

I wouldn't mind a Texas A&M-LSU type of beatdown. Good luck!

[Rosewood]

His last bracket had WSU as an 11 seed in the play-in game. He was right at the end.

You mean the final bracket he and Joe do after everything is done and they get the inside information? Wow. That's amazing he got THAT one right.

[DUShock]

From Gary Parrish

"Every eligible Power 5 school with a top-54 RPI made the NCAA Tournament. But eight non-Power 5 schools with top-54 RPIs did not."

It is a whoring process.

[fansince80s]

Also who did the mayor of Dayton bribe to get these games every year at the expense and inconvenience of everybody else. Why can't Vandy and us just play in Providence?

It's an appetizer to the tournament. First 4 then final 4. Bookends.

[shoxlax]

I find it hard to believe Jim Schaus agreed to much of the BS analysis the committee seemed to use to determine the last few teams.

Maybe the new guy didn't want to make waves

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I get all of that, but the system is flawed IMHO when an at large has a play in game and an auto bid winner that wouldn't be in otherwise doesn't.

Not your fault or mine. Just wondered why they dont make all of the last eight seeds compete in the play in round

If you don't like the system, that's fine. My beef with Fever was that he was claiming the committee gave UNI a near equal rank as WSU. The facts just don't show any proof for that to be true.

Regarding the system, I get their intention. The really, really crappy auto-bid winners with losing records (Holy Cross) have to play a game before even earning the right to move on as a 16 seed and play a 1. That adds a little difficulty for the teams who came out of nowhere as the 8 seed in a crappy conference to win a short conference tournament.

The purpose of 2 of the games being for the last at-large teams is to blur the edges around the bubble. Rather than one team getting in and the team just below them not, the last 4 teams to get in are in, but have to "prove it", so to speak, by playing each other and eliminating 2. It simply makes the cut line a little less harsh.

There are effectively 2 types of play in games, and they are meant to be different. The fact that UNI is an 11 without a play-in game is really beyond the point of the play-in games' existence.

[ShockerFever]

If you don't like the system, that's fine. My beef with Fever was that he was claiming the committee gave UNI a near equal rank as WSU. The facts just don't show any proof for that to be true.

Regarding the system, I get their intention. The really, really crappy auto-bid winners with losing records (Holy Cross) have to play a game to move on. That adds a little difficulty for the teams who came out of nowhere as the 8 seed in a crappy conference to win a short conference tournament. The purpose of 2 of the games being for the last at-large teams is to blur the edges around the bubble. Rather than one team getting in and the team just below them not, the last 4 teams to get in are in, but have to "prove it", so to speak, by playing each other and eliminating 2. There are effectively 2 types of play in games, and they are meant to be different. The fact that UNI is an 11 without a play-in game is really beyond the point of the play-in games' existence.

I get the whole seeding curve thing. But as far as THIS tournament goes and the teams in it, the committee view them as equals.