If WSU Shoots 40%+ From 3PT The Remainder of the Season, the Team Will...

[ShockerFever]

???, I didnt know i was given one...so i guess it was fine, weather in san diego was great, just got back to ict...if thats what u mean?

LOL.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Logically I agree with you. Probably a bad statement on my part. However, interesting to note, the last 3 years a 7-10 that has beat the 1 or 2 in their region has made the Final 4: Wichita St., Kentucky and Michigan St. Probably just an anomaly or perhaps the confidence boost is important. Beating the 1 or 2 in your region makes you honestly believe you can beat anyone you play.

Yes, AFTER beating the 1 or 2, odds of reaching the Final 4 increase dramatically. The key is that actually beating the 1 or 2 is a tough task that most 7-10 seeds don't actually pull off. Can't fast forward to the 2nd weekend until you actually pass the first weekend.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Seeding is irrelevant once the ball is tipped.

Nope.

The higher the seed you are playing, the tougher the team you are playing, and the lower your chances of winning. Tip-off doesn't change this.

I'm fascinated by the fact that there isn't 100% consensus on this.

[im4wsu]

Nope.

The higher the seed you are playing, the tougher the team you are playing, and the lower your chances of winning. Tip-off doesn't change this.

I'm fascinated by the fact that there isn't 100% consensus on this.

I think he may be talking of the other team, not the team with the higher seed. Playing the #1 seed, it makes no difference once the ball is tipped as to what number you have before your name. I'm fascinated by the fact that there isn't 100% consensus on this

[ShockerFever]

The key is that actually beating the 1 or 2 is a tough task that most 7-10 seeds don't actually pull off.

WSU doesn't agree with your statistics, seeing how they're 3 for 3 in their last 3 attempts in that scenario.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I think he may be talking of the other team, not the team with the higher seed. Playing the #1 seed, it makes no difference once the ball is tipped as to what number you have before your name. I'm fascinated by the fact that there isn't 100% consensus on this

That is a fair stand alone argument to make, but would make no sense as a response to my quoted post. Total switch of topic if that was pie n eye's actual argument.

[im4wsu]

That is a fair stand alone argument to make, but would make no sense as a response to my quoted post. Total switch of topic if that was pie n eye's actual argument.

You quoted pie as saying seed is irrelevant once the ball is tipped, so if you are the lower seed, whether you are 2 or 16 makes no difference to you, you're playing #1 no matter what your seed How is that a switch in topic?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

You quoted pie as saying seed is irrelevant once the ball is tipped, so if you are the lower seed, whether you are 2 or 16 makes no difference to you, you're playing #1 no matter what your seed How is that a switch in topic?

Go back and re-read. You have it backwards.

@pie n eye: jumped into the conversation by quoting my post. I was discussing how your own team's seeding effects the difficulty of opponents that you will face. If the goal of quoting me was to then provide a relevant comment/criticism, it would make no sense to respond to my quote with a completely different topic. However good or bad the team you root for might be is irrelevant to my argument about how difficult your opponents will be.

My main point was simple. If making the Final Four is your goal, you want as high of seed as possible. I'm not even arguing against your point, @im4wsu. WSU will indeed be the same WSU whether the committee slaps a 5 or a 10 seed number next to their name. The same Shocker team will be taking the floor. However, the opponent will be different, and the road to the Final 4 is more difficult as a 10 than as a 5.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

WSU doesn't agree with your statistics, seeing how they're 3 for 3 in their last 3 attempts in that scenario.

That's about as smart as saying that a handful of warm January afternoons are an argument in favor of a carbon tax to fight climate change.

[pie n eye]

Go back and re-read. You have it backwards.

@pie n eye: jumped into the conversation by quoting my post. I was discussing how your own team's seeding effects the difficulty of opponents that you will face. If the goal of quoting me was to then provide a relevant comment/criticism, it would make no sense to respond to my quote with a completely different topic. However good or bad the team you root for might be is irrelevant to my argument about how difficult your opponents will be.

My main point was simple. If making the Final Four is your goal, you want as high of seed as possible. I'm not even arguing against your point, @im4wsu. WSU will indeed be the same WSU whether the committee slaps a 5 or a 10 seed number next to their name. The same Shocker team will be taking the floor. However, the opponent will be different, and the road to the Final 4 is more difficult as a 10 than as a 5.

Within the context of any single game, seeding is irrelevant once the ball tips.

[ShockerFever]

That's about as smart as saying that a handful of warm January afternoons are an argument in favor of a carbon tax to fight climate change.

As smart? What did I say that wasn't true? Did I make any correlations between that statistic and you going nutty bar in this thread?

WSU doesn't agree with your statistics. That's a FACT.

[ShockdaWorld]

Good lord....Leave for several hours and come back to the same squabbles.

[ShockerFever]

Good lord....Leave for several hours and come back to the same squabbles.

I know. He can't stop following me.

[ShockdaWorld]

I know. He can't stop following me.

And you love the entertainment. :)

[ShockerPrez]

Nope.

The higher the seed you are playing, the tougher the team you are playing, and the lower your chances of winning. Tip-off doesn't change this.

I'm fascinated by the fact that there isn't 100% consensus on this.

Unless you get to play a Big 12 team.

Then, seeding is irrelevant.