the 100 greatest Shocker players

[wufan]

the 6'10" Serb.............cannot think of his name........dementia

Radunovich at 37

[wufan]

Jay Jackson has to be on the list somewhere.

It appears not.

[wufan]

There are some great individual players that didn't have the benefit of a good team around them. Ron Harris and Vince Smith come to mind. I also wonder where Tekele lands.

Harris - not listed between 21 and 100
Smith - 44
Cotton - 29

[wufan]

Bobby Wilson should be in Top 25 conversation. One of the best Shocker shooters who played for Chicsgo Bulls. Only problem was that he only played two years. When he played there was very little help inside playing a 6'4" Center. I think that Vince Wilson played then too.

Good call...Bob Wilson at 27.

[wufan]

Mike Jones better be in there somewhere, just for his two 25 footers to beat KU...

Looks like he was more clutch than career.

[wufan]

1. D. Stallworth
2. X. McDaniel
3. A. Carr
4. F. VanVleet
5. R. Baker
6. W. Armstrong/Jabali
7. C. Littleton
8. Ch. Johnson
9. C. Early
10. J. Perez
11. C. Levingston
12. G. Wiley
13. T. Murry
14. A. Sherrod
15. R. Burns

14 of 15 made the top 20. Burns at 33.

[WuDrWu]

Top 10:

1. Xavier McDaniel
2. Dave Stallworth
3. Antoine Carr
4. Cleo Littleton
5. Fred Van Vleet
6. Ron Baker
7. Cliff Levingston
8. Cleanthony Early
9. Warren Armstrong
10. Cheese Johnson

What do you think? I don't know if Fred or Ron are eligible. I put Cle behind Cliff due to being a transfer. Armstrong is probably too low. I'm not sure if Perez makes the top 15 or not.

Not positive but based on 11-20 I'm pretty sure you nailed the 10. Let's see how you did getting them in order.

[1972Shocker]

The Bob Lutz Top 10 are in. As expected Dave The Rave is No. 1. I think Bob did a pretty good job with hit Top 10 although I think Cheese is a little bit undervalued. But I'm a Cheese lover.

1. Dave Stallworth
2. Xavier McDaniel
3. Antoine Carr
4. Cleo Littleton
5. Warren Armstrong
6. Fred VanVleet
7. Cliff Levingston
8. Ron Baker
9. Cleanthony Early
10. Cheese Johnson

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-col...#storylink=cpy

[jocoshock]

The Bob Lutz Top 10 are in. As expected Dave The Rave is No. 1. I think Bob did a pretty good job with hit Top 10 although I think Cheese is a little bit undervalued. But I'm a Cheese lover.

1. Dave Stallworth
2. Xavier McDaniel
3. Antoine Carr
4. Cleo Littleton
5. Warren Armstrong
6. Fred VanVleet
7. Cliff Levingston
8. Ron Baker
9. Cleanthony Early
10. Cheese Johnson

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-col...#storylink=cpy

Every one of those jerseys should be hanging from the rafters, which begs the question, what do you do about #11 should Landry meet/exceed expectations.... hang it twice? We have several years to worry about that.

[1972Shocker]

Every one of those jerseys should be hanging from the rafters, which begs the question, what do you do about #11 should Landry meet/exceed expectations.... hang it twice? We have several years to worry about that.

Mike Kennedy was discussing this recently in a pre-game show. I think Mike's thoughts were that they should retire jersey's and not numbers. He thinks it would be cool to see these numbers on the court again. He didn't say this but if they do that I hope they are picking about who gets to earn the privilege of wearing these numbers again. Cleanthony would have looked good in #42. But were probably a long way away from having retired enough numbers for it to be much of an issue.

[Shockers5150]

Just for fun, if wsu wins the national title, fred and Ron move up on principle, right? :)
Solid top 10.

[ShockTalk]

Mike Kennedy was discussing this recently in a pre-game show. I think Mike's thoughts were that they should retire jersey's and not numbers. He thinks it would be cool to see these numbers on the court again. He didn't say this but if they do that I hope they are picking about who gets to earn the privilege of wearing these numbers again. Cleanthony would have looked good in #42. But were probably a long way away from having retired enough numbers for it to be much of an issue.

Pessimist. :wink-new:

[wsushox1]

Yea retire jersey's not numbers, don't make this harder than it has to be.

[Ricardo del Rio]

The Bob Lutz Top 10 are in. As expected Dave The Rave is No. 1. I think Bob did a pretty good job with hit Top 10 although I think Cheese is a little bit undervalued. But I'm a Cheese lover.

In my Shocker fan career, which is about 54 years, I have sat all over the field house. I have sat in the 30s, in the 10s, and on the row behind the railing. I have sat at mid-court and on the corner. I have sat in wooden, folding chairs on the floor at mid-court.

My favorite seats of all time were on the floor and adjacent to the old water fountain at the northeast corner of the arena. There were not any other seats near my two wood folding chairs. The reason that I loved these two seats was because I could watch Cheese Johnson up close and personal. When he came down and set up on offense, it usually was just a few feet from me. I felt like I could reach out almost touch him.

Cheese had as many juke moves as any player that I have ever watched. He was about 6-7, but he played much taller. Absolutely nobody wanted to guard him.

I iz a Cheese lover too.

[1972Shocker]

No doubt about it. Cheese was far and away the best double-clutcher (sometimes it seemed like triple-clutchers) in Shocker history. He would show the defender the ball, pull it back and put it in the basket. Cheese was Good News, Version 1.