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Originally posted by Kung Wu
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That is all.
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I don't recall the exact play, but if there are six players on the floor when the ball is placed at the disposal of the offense, it is considered live and therefore a technical foul.
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The ball had not yet been given to the inbounding player. The 6th player left the court, Higgins verified with the scorer's table that the correct 5 were on the court, and then gave the ball to the inbounder.Comment
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Then it was a non-event and definitely not a technical foul.Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
It is standard protocol for one official (usually the center) to count and confirm 5 on 5 before signaling the official placing the ball at the disposal of the offense.
There are a lot of things we can't control in a game. This is one of many things which we can.
That is all.Above all, make the right call.Comment
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Here's a post by Garrett Stuz on Facebook.
"I've been saying this for years. Kelly Self is not a D1 official. How can they put him on a #1 vs #2 match up. John Higgins and Steve Olson absolutely deserve that game 2 of the best out there. It's obvious 1 of the 3 doesn't belong"
Interesting viewpoint from a former player we normally don't get to see.Comment
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Apparently there's a Vine going around that shows Bill Self mouthing the words, "Blow the whistle right now", just before Kelly Self calls the phantom foul that eventually got Bill Self the technical.
#FamilyTies
/tinfoil hatComment
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Makes sense.Originally posted by ShockRef View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Sweet! In soccer it's standard protocol for the fans to count and start yelling bloody murder until the coach figures out what's going on and then he rips the referee, who then counts and throws out a yellow card. :)Originally posted by ShockRef View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Some people really need to let stuff go. A post made in anger weeks ago that is still being talked about is kinda ridiculous. I've moved on, and I even apologize for the comments. It was heat of the moment, and I'm sure we've all had heat of the moment comments we'd like to take back. I wish I could take that back. I can't. I'm moving on, why don't the 3 or 4 people that can't let it go just move on and forget about it? Wrong is wrong, I was wrong, admitting it, and moving on.
Also, it's amazing how nobody seems to care when I blatantly criticize the officials, but they are all over me when I back the officials. Kind of ironic. Either way, it's a new year, fresh start, although I am considering leaving shockernet to go to some more people friendly boards.
Happy new year everybody.Comment
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Originally posted by shockerfanmas View Post
It makes some people feel better that officials change the outcomes of games. LOL. Sometimes I wonder what people are looking at or if they really understand basketball. Pretty sure the latter. Tiresome subject on every single game thread.Comment
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Oh come on.
You're telling me you've never blamed officiating or questioned calls after a Creighton loss before?
Don't be a hypocrite.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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It's baffling to me that anyone can rationally believe that they don't.Originally posted by Mr. Obvious View Post
Enforcement of the rules is a tremendous part of any game. In basketball, for example, there are dozens of instances each game where rules are enforced and dozens more that are not. Each has a direct impact on teams ability to take high percentage shots, retain possession, or even which players can be in the game. It is incredibly unlikely, within any given game, that the impact of each enforcement and non-enforcement of the rules has the EXACT same impact on each team. And if they do not have the EXACT same impact on each team relative to that team's adherence or lack thereof to said rules, then they have most definitely impacted the outcome of the game. They may not have tried to. In fact, I'm sure 99% of refs are trying their very best 99% of the time to be as objective and fair to everyone as is possible. And sometimes, most times even, the difference between that rule enforcement being exactly 50/50 and the outcome of the game is such that it was not the reason a team won or lost. But not all times.Comment
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I can even admit that the way a game is called or not called can influence the way a game is played. Dizzle is right, most officials try not to influence the outcome of a game. I know some that have. Everything I've said earlier was angry posts.Comment
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I happen to believe that officials have preconceived notions about certain players or teams either from past experience or from conversations with colleagues. For example, Shaq uses his hands to push on rebounding. Or Fred is on a drive and he is not trying to get off a shot but instead just initiates contact to draw a foul. Whether intentional or not, these preconceived notions become a self-fulfilling prophecy and the official will make the call that they expected to occur on the play.
I know for a fact that teachers/professors talk and have pre-conceived ideas about students and students' behaviors. I attribute that same tendency to officials in almost every sport"I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
"We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".
A physician called into a radio show and said:
"That's the definition of a stool sample."Comment
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Should Frank Mason have been called for at least one of the violations he committed on the last OU out of bounds play? Specially after the referee (supposedly) said 3-feet?"You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."Comment
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I didn't see the actual play but based on the still photos I've seen at the very least he should have been given a DOG warning. If he reached over the line and hit the ball it would be a technical foul. If he reached over the last ne and made contact it would be an intentional foul, or in college terms a flagrant 1. I've heard he did both so I'm going to say he definitely should have been called for somethingOriginally posted by ShockdaWorld View PostComment
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