AP and Coaches Poll Watch Thread (2015-16 Edition)

[Play Angry]

Rick Bozich has us at 21.

[Shock Top]

Is WSU experiencing the "KU Quality Loss Effect"?!?! Say it isn't so!!!! ;)

[Play Angry]

Doug Haller has us at 25, Bret Strelow has us at 23, Geoff Grammer and Jerry Carino have us at 22.

Looking good so far.

[Dan]

As long as Evan is on the court, he will be the guy that is open for a 3. When we're passing it around the perimeter, Evan is the one player the opposing team wants to take the shot, hence, he will always be open. What we do with that strategy, i have no idea.

[shockmonster]

Other guts had open 3 shots and missed. We were 1-14 in the second half.

[shocka khan]

As long as Evan is on the court, he will be the guy that is open for a 3. When we're passing it around the perimeter, Evan is the one player the opposing team wants to take the shot, hence, he will always be open. What we do with that strategy, i have no idea.

I could make a suggestion here, but I'd probably end up with (another) back full of arrows. However, there were plenty of bricks being thrown up in the Illinois State game, especially in the second half, so there's plenty of blame to go around. I believe Wessel scored at least 5 points that I know of, he had two chippies under the basket and 1 of 2 free throws, so he had at least 5 points. That's pretty close to what I think he needs to score to make the defenses account for him.

Singling out poor shooting, for instance, Frankamp, who had 9 points and is, according to Mark Adams, our 3-point specialist must have missed at least 3 3-point shots in the second half. He has been in a slump lately and he needs to get it figured out.

But I still, for the life of me, didn't understand why Shaq wasn't in the game with about 3 minutes to go (instead of being subbed in with 12.5 seconds left) and it was very obvious that Marshall did not have an answer for the adjustments made by Muller at half, meaning he got outcoached.

So I think this loss was on the team and the coaching staff.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

It looks like there is actually a good shot WSU stays in at #25. #24 might even be possible. Worst case the Shox are a strong #26.

[Play Angry]

Unranked by Chris Dachille.

[Stickboy46]

Unranked by Chris Dachille.

Interesting .. he had us 17 last week.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Unranked by Chris Dachille.

Yikes. He had WSU #17 last week. That's a big fall. I'm not going to yell at anyone solely for leaving WSU out this week, but if you had WSU #17 last week, you are a moron to think they needed to drop that far. Either they were #17 last week or they are unranked this week. I can't accept both opinions simultaneously.

[Stickboy46]

Yikes. He had WSU #17 last week. That's a big fall. I'm not going to yell at anyone solely for leaving WSU out this week, but if you had WSU #17 last week, you are a moron to think they needed to drop that far. Either they were #17 last week or they are unranked this week. I can't accept both opinions simultaneously.

Agreed .. He must be a poster here. One of the "sky is falling" ones.

[Dave Stalwart]

If WSU can still squeak in as a top 25 team in both polls it would be good and I can assure you we won't lose again. This is a galvanizing loss that will create a new drive, and we were already playing well prior to this game.

Falling all the way out would be sad because we are about to close this season out undefeated. Not having to get back over the hump again in the ranking system would be nice.

[shocka khan]

If WSU can still squeak in as a top 25 team in both polls it would be good and I can assure you we won't lose again. This is a galvanizing loss that will create a new drive, and we were already playing well prior to this game.

Falling all the way out would be sad because we are about to close this season out undefeated. Not having to get back over the hump again in the ranking system would be nice.

I know you're a sunshine pumper, so I would respectfully remind you that we still play Indiana State on the road. Their zone will be much better executed than the one we saw in Normal on Saturday. I think Lansing is a much better coach as well, so the coaching staff needs to do a better job at reacting quickly either to the zone or the halftime adjustments.

[im4wsu]

I know you're a sunshine pumper, so I would respectfully remind you that we still play Indiana State on the road. Their zone will be much better executed than the one we saw in Normal on Saturday. I think Lansing is a much better coach as well, so the coaching staff needs to do a better job at reacting quickly either to the zone or the halftime adjustments.

Speaking of reacting quickly, what is the status of Chris Jans? Was his temporary contract renewed? Is he involved in scouting the next opponent?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

If WSU can still squeak in as a top 25 team in both polls it would be good and I can assure you we won't lose again. This is a galvanizing loss that will create a new drive, and we were already playing well prior to this game.

Falling all the way out would be sad because we are about to close this season out undefeated. Not having to get back over the hump again in the ranking system would be nice.

WSU was ranked #21 last week but still missing from 6 of the 65 ballots. Regardless of where WSU falls today, they will be on some ballots, not all. Ranking #25 is just merely a cut off for listing teams with a number in front of their name. #26 is really not significantly different from #25 in terms of chances to move up in the future.