"The Shockers are may favorite team"

[pie n eye]

In quality of team? Yes.

In national perception, which is what you were responding to? No. Not by miles.

Perception takes a HELL of a long time to change. National perception regarding programs doesn't change just because you have the better team for a few years. The Lakers' national perception is miles beyond the Warriors, even though the Lakers have been trash for several years now.

We could drub Kansas by double digits once a year for the next ten years straight and Kansas would still have a greater national perception than us.

Huh? National perception is that the Lakers are a joke. Maybe there are some average Americans who don't follow the NBA at all, who still wear the hats and remember the good days. But anyone who knows anything about basketball understands how terrible the lakers are right now.

[pie n eye]

This is off the subject but I'm going to answer SSA.
I would not dream of trying to sway your opinion. After all, you are an intelligent 17,18, or maybe 19 year old adult. Here are some facts to mull over as a young libertarian. As you can see, the Constitution gives as much weight to providing for domestic order, general welfare, etc. as it gives to securing liberty for our citizenry.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insuredomestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Here are some other facts:
1. On the average, the human brain does not fully develop until 25 years old.
2. Many experts on child development also categorize child adolescence as 12-27 years.
3. Studies in marijuana use for young adults/teens who use marijuana once a week, IQ scores have dropped as much as 8 points. Example: For a score of 90(considered average intelligence)with a drop to 82 which is a "slow learner" who can still learn but needs remedial help.
Conclusion: Current evidence shows that teens/young adults are at risk when they use modern day marijuana. While I wish that Colorado could guarantee that only adults that are not at risk would be able to use but reports from Colorado also seem to show that the attitudes that marijuana is harmless is increasing it's use with younger teens.

The above is not accurate.

[Ricardo del Rio]

http://www.hillsdale.edu/

[SirShoxAlot]

This is off the subject but I'm going to answer SSA.
I would not dream of trying to sway your opinion. After all, you are an intelligent 17,18, or maybe 19 year old adult. Here are some facts to mull over as a young libertarian. As you can see, the Constitution gives as much weight to providing for domestic order, general welfare, etc. as it gives to securing liberty for our citizenry.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insuredomestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Here are some other facts:
1. On the average, the human brain does not fully develop until 25 years old.
2. Many experts on child development also categorize child adolescence as 12-27 years.
3. Studies in marijuana use for young adults/teens who use marijuana once a week, IQ scores have dropped as much as 8 points. Example: For a score of 90(considered average intelligence)with a drop to 82 which is a "slow learner" who can still learn but needs remedial help.
Conclusion: Current evidence shows that teens/young adults are at risk when they use modern day marijuana. While I wish that Colorado could guarantee that only adults that are not at risk would be able to use but reports from Colorado also seem to show that the attitudes that marijuana is harmless is increasing it's use with younger teens.

OK, I'm 22, but I'm going to pretend you didn't make the age comment just to be a dick. Moving on.

Your (inaccurate) concern is useless until I see you on the forefront pushing for the prohibition of alcohol and tobacco. Until then, you're a hypocrite.

I knew kids getting DRUUUUUNK when I was like 14, dude. Nobody freaks out about that.

[SirShoxAlot]

You may also want to consider that a legal, government regulated dispensary will care about not selling to underage citizens. The black market doesn't care how old you are, they just want the $40 in your pocket.

[ShockerFever]

I thought you were done with this?

[shockmonster]

OK, I'm 22, but I'm going to pretend you didn't make the age comment just to be a dick. Moving on.

Your (inaccurate) concern is useless until I see you on the forefront pushing for the prohibition of alcohol and tobacco. Until then, you're a hypocrite.

I knew kids getting DRUUUUUNK when I was like 14, dude. Nobody freaks out about that.

I apologized I missed your age by several years. I always worry about a world that will include my kids, grandkids, etc. Legalized drugs of all kinds seem to be on the horizon. As it was pointed out, legalized marijuana was supposed to solve illegal drugs but black market marijuana is alive and well in Colorado.

There are not too many studies on the long term effects of alcohol because the "horse has been out of the barn for a long time". However, marijuana and other drugs are a hot issue. I don't have a great answer, and my only answer to that is two wrongs don't make a right.

[ShockerPhi]

No, that's ok. I was enjoying hearing about the expansion of the Shocker brand, but I guess I'm cool with learning about Marijuana too.

[shock]

While we are on the subject...



816 BOYS!!!!

[Shocker-maniac]

No, that's ok. I was enjoying hearing about the expansion of the Shocker brand, but I guess I'm cool with learning about Marijuana too.

There is strong scientific evidence that most SN posters are users of marijuana especially those that post in the off-season. In fact there is a very high correlation between the frequency of posts and utilization of pot. Those that post frequently on here are very heavy users. If ever you were looking for good solid evidence that people should stay away from marijuana just read some of the posts on this "fine" forum. It's enough to scare you straight :)

[JackStraw]

I was over at the park on Sunday doing surveillance work , and just happened to spot of bunch of band members ............

[Rlh04d]

Huh? National perception is that the Lakers are a joke. Maybe there are some average Americans who don't follow the NBA at all, who still wear the hats and remember the good days. But anyone who knows anything about basketball understands how terrible the lakers are right now.

And yet I bet more random casual sports fans can talk about the Lakers in depth than the Warriors right now.

[shoxtop]

And yet I bet more random casual sports fans can talk about the Lakers in depth than the Warriors right now.

Their history, yes. Their current state of affairs? No way. By next season maybe but not right now. Sports is a what have you done for me lately industry. That's why bandwagon fans run so rampant

[Kung Wu]

And yet I bet more random casual sports fans can talk about the Lakers in depth than the Warriors right now.

I'm in that camp. Until a few weeks ago I couldn't have told you a single player that EVER played for the Warriors, let alone anyone on the current roster. The Lakers would be an entirely different story.

[pie n eye]

I'm in that camp. Until a few weeks ago I couldn't have told you a single player that EVER played for the Warriors, let alone anyone on the current roster. The Lakers would be an entirely different story.

I don't know you from Wilt Chamberlin but I imagine you fall into the "average Americans who don't follow the NBA" category I described. If not, I find it hard to believe that you were unaware of Chris Mullins and Chris Weber at the very least.