BSO Reporting Gregg Marshall is interviewing for Iowa State Job.

[ShockdaWorld]

The idiots are in abundance at phog for sure. Their denial is what I find most humorous.

[SHOCKvalue]

"I was reading the condescending drivel on the KU board."

Yep, the comment that Wichita State University is essentially a small JUCO was telling. Many posters on Phog.net are living in a fantasy world. The word delusional comes to mind.

And they are completely obsessed with Gregg Marshall. Funny that.

People that have a connection to KU academically have fully bought in to the concept that if you repeat something enough times to yourself it will somehow wrap itself up into a cocoon and reveal itself as reality sometime in the future. They all consider KU to be an academic powerhouse, in spite of the fact that in the USN&WR and Forbes rankings KU actually falls in the lower half of the B12, and no one has ever confused the B12 with the Ivy or the B10, to put it mildly. Even in-state, they have been ranked neck-and-neck with K-State for years and years, but yet the average KU student, faculty, or alum is oblivious to this fact, instead believing they make K-State look like a juco as well.

It is all very strange psychological and sociological behavior.

[WuDrWu]

The idiots are in abundance at phog for sure. Their denial is what I find most humorous.

That denial is approaching epidemic levels. They're almost to the point that as a group they don't believe 78-65 even happened.

Typical phog.douche reaction to hearing WSU beat ku and is superior to ku

[SHOCKvalue]

Iowa State is to the B12 what Kansas State is to the B12. A mid-major that has ridden the coat tails of their peers for decades and the only thing they use their status for is talking down about teams that are way better than them in lesser conferences. A coaching change has caused K-State to shut their mouths and I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with Iowa State.

Absolutely.

Iowa State is dead last in the B12 in athletic department revenues. The margin from #1 Texas to ISU is absolutely massive - almost $100M. ISU is even 8 figures below the league median. They are merely trying to stave off the fact that when the next round of conference realigntment takes place they will be on the outside looking in. They are very much a weakling in the P5, and will eventually get squashed like a bug.

K-State is in essentially the same boat. If ISU is #1 on a list for "better watch your ass come realignment", then K-State is #1b.

[Rlh04d]

I don't know the number, but if you are right and he wasn't terribly expensive, then I think I would understand. Prohm may have been at a better spot than Winthrop (I'm about to make a Marshall comparison), but he was also in one of those spots where you can be practically undefeated and have a top 30 RPI and then get a 10 seed or something worse...like getting bumped to the NIT. This year was a prime example, although the RPI wasn't so hot. He may feel pretty ready to coach somewhere that stuff like that doesn't happen. Even still, I'm sure it is going to be a raise on some level. I can't wait to see Iowa State win some Big 12 titles. I all of the sudden have more of a vested interest in the Big 12 race next season. It's hard not to pull for this guy.

I can't build up any sympathy for Murray St/Prohm. They willingly scheduled four teams this last season with RPI's 239 or worse -- including Alabama A&M at 331 and Alcorn St at 348, two of the single worst teams in the entire country. Those four teams have combined for one single season with an RPI better than 190 since 2010-11, so it's not like any of them surprised them with their RPI. Compare that to our noncon schedule, where Saint Louis was the only team we willingly scheduled with an RPI worse than 100, and that was still a follow-up game from playing an SLU team with a top 35 RPI that made the tournament on the road the year prior. The only other bad RPIs we played were forced by the tournament or by the last BracketBusters rematch. I'm not going to give Murray St crap for not scheduling a murderer's row, or even the same SOS as us ... but when you willingly schedule SIU, Alabama A&M, Houston, and Alcorn St in a single year, for no reason but guaranteed wins, I've got no sympathy for your team not making the tournament. Replace those four teams with top 150 teams and Murray St would have been in. If you're going to WILLINGLY schedule teams like that, you know your only chance at the NCAA tournament is winning the auto-bid or going nearly undefeated, and you'll have a mediocre seed either way.

So going to Iowa St works well. Prohm can continue to schedule incredibly weak noncon schedules and be bailed out by the B12 love affair to high tournament seeds.

[Rlh04d]

Iowa State is to the B12 what Creighton was to the MVC and currently is to the NBE. All hat no cattle in both cases.

Creighton has actually won conference championships in the last 14 years, though.

[SHOCKvalue]

Creighton has actually won conference championships in the last 14 years, though.

This sweet thing...



...was a new car rolling off the dealer's showroom, the last time the Creighton Bluejays men's basketball team got out of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament.

EDIT: Besides, you missed the memo. In a behavior strikingly similar to our dearly departed Bluejays, Clone fans equate conference tournament championships to be the same material thing as conference regular season championships. Don't ever tell a Clone fan that they haven't been B12 champions in 14 years, you'll confuse the poor things. In their minds they are the 2014 and 2015 B12 champions.

[Cdizzle]

I can't build up any sympathy for Murray St/Prohm. They willingly scheduled four teams this last season with RPI's 239 or worse -- including Alabama A&M at 331 and Alcorn St at 348, two of the single worst teams in the entire country. Those four teams have combined for one single season with an RPI better than 190 since 2010-11, so it's not like any of them surprised them with their RPI. Compare that to our noncon schedule, where Saint Louis was the only team we willingly scheduled with an RPI worse than 100, and that was still a follow-up game from playing an SLU team with a top 35 RPI that made the tournament on the road the year prior. The only other bad RPIs we played were forced by the tournament or by the last BracketBusters rematch. I'm not going to give Murray St crap for not scheduling a murderer's row, or even the same SOS as us ... but when you willingly schedule SIU, Alabama A&M, Houston, and Alcorn St in a single year, for no reason but guaranteed wins, I've got no sympathy for your team not making the tournament. Replace those four teams with top 150 teams and Murray St would have been in. If you're going to WILLINGLY schedule teams like that, you know your only chance at the NCAA tournament is winning the auto-bid or going nearly undefeated, and you'll have a mediocre seed either way.

So going to Iowa St works well. Prohm can continue to schedule incredibly weak noncon schedules and be bailed out by the B12 love affair to high tournament seeds.

You're assuming they could have scheduled better HOME games. I'm less convinced. You are right in that he'll be able to schedule even more terrible home games in the B12 and be rewarded for a gaudy record.

[WSUwatcher]

Yep, the comment that Wichita State University is essentially a small JUCO was telling. Many posters on Phog.net are living in a fantasy world. The word delusional comes to mind.

And they are completely obsessed with Gregg Marshall. Funny that.

I'm certainly not about to waste time on a KU board, so I can't quote or comment in detail about the WSU JC foolishness, but isn't getting their butt kicked by a JC team even more embarrassing than their customary early exit against a "mid-major" (especially one from their MVC nemesis)?

[bleed yellow]

Iowa State is to the B12 what Kansas State is to the B12. A mid-major that has ridden the coat tails of their peers for decades and the only thing they use their status for is talking down about teams that are way better than them in lesser conferences. A coaching change has caused K-State to shut their mouths and I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with Iowa State.

That coaching change caused more than just K-State fans to shut their mouths. Lol.. I recall Frank Martin saying over and over while at ksu that nobody gave him a chance, therefore he was a basketball genius. Needless to say he's not repeating himself down at South Carolina. Pretty much everyone associated with their short run in basketball is rendered speechless these days. Thank God.

[Rlh04d]

This sweet thing...



...was a new car rolling off the dealer's showroom, the last time the Creighton Bluejays men's basketball team got out of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament.

EDIT: Besides, you missed the memo. In a behavior strikingly similar to our dearly departed Bluejays, Clone fans equate conference tournament championships to be the same material thing as conference regular season championships. Don't ever tell a Clone fan that they haven't been B12 champions in 14 years, you'll confuse the poor things. In their minds they are the 2014 and 2015 B12 champions.

I'm all for crapping on Creighton, but, again, they've won regular season championships in the last 14 years.

They will never make the Sweet 16,and it's hilarious, but they're better than Iowa St in that they have won regular season titles.

[Rlh04d]

You're assuming they could have scheduled better HOME games. I'm less convinced. You are right in that he'll be able to schedule even more terrible home games in the B12 and be rewarded for a gaudy record.

You seriously don't think they could have found two better home games than a pair of teams that are in the 300s of the RPI every single season?

Absolutely they could have. They could have found better buy games than those two, and better overall games by doing home and home. Hell, they could have swapped one for a D2 team.

Murray St isn't a powerhouse or one teams rush to play, but other teams with less name value and similar success are able to schedule better without much trouble. I bet they could have played us home and home.

Prohm played at least five noncon games against 200+ RPI teams every year he was at Murray St.

[Kel Varnsen]

FWIW, the (very level-headed) friends I have who are KU fans also laughed at the notion that Marshall would consider the ISU job.

They are most certainly not on phog.net.

[Mr. Obvious]

FWIW, the (very level-headed) friends I have who are KU fans also laughed at the notion that Marshall would consider the ISU job.

They are most certainly not on phog.net.

+1 Just like SN or any other athletic message board. Opinions reflected by 1-4 people means 100% of the fanbase feels/is that way. Idiotic!!

[ShockerFever]

Creighton fans, KU fans.. They're all the same. And they all suck.