Future Shocks

[Rlh04d]

no surprise, coming from you, tamu, turgeon didn't appreciate what he had, tamu.

louisville formula appears to be the better blueprint, obviously, and much more realistic. gonzaga has been to the final four since when?

Gonzaga has one Elite 8 (1999) and five Sweet 16's in program history (all from 2000-on). Never further.

Personally, not the blueprint I want to use.

[wufan]

Given the run of great point guard play under Marshall, is anyone else wondering who the heir apparent to VanVleet will be? Can't replace a floor general like VanVleet but I'm hoping someone will groomed to take over. My best guess would be Taylor at this point. Thoughts?

I think Frankamp will be the PG when FVV leaves. I believe Taylor will be the back-up after a RS freshman year. Of course I have no clue, but I'm not as worried about PG as I am about the back-up center position. If CF and TT turn out to be SGs, I feel like a player could be recruited from JUCO. If Nurger doesn't pan out, it's usually two years to develop a post.

[SHOCKvalue]

Gonzaga has one Elite 8 (1999) and five Sweet 16's in program history (all from 2000-on). Never further.

Personally, not the blueprint I want to use.

Well, to be fair, Gonzaga has two E8's and 6 S16's, as they just scored an extra of each within the past few weeks.

[Rlh04d]

Well, to be fair, Gonzaga has two E8's and 6 S16's, as they just scored an extra of each within the past few weeks.

D'oh ... I gave them credit for a S16 this year instead of an E8.

Two E8's, 4 S16's. Although 6 times of achieving the S16 or better.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Well, to be fair, Gonzaga has two E8's and 6 S16's, as they just scored an extra of each within the past few weeks.

I like fairness. I found that most folks do.

How many top 100 centers go to Mo Valley schools? Or non P-5 schools. Just wondering.

In order to be competitive, mid-major universities have to find a unconventional way to attract and develop big men. It is not an easy task.

In advance I apologize to those, who recoil at the mention of WSU being a mid-major university in basketball.

[Owp99]

I would like Stephen Zimmerman.

From what I have seen from him, I don't think we would. He goes away from contact and thinks he can shoot jumpers when he can't. He also didn't get that many rebounds for how tall and athletic he is. He really doesn't impress me at all.

[ShockTalk]

I like fairness. I found that most folks do.

How many top 100 centers go to Mo Valley schools? Or non P-5 schools. Just wondering.

In order to be competitive, mid-major universities have to find a unconventional way to attract and develop big men. It is not an easy task.

In advance I apologize to those, who recoil at the mention of WSU being a mid-major university in basketball.

Probably a lot. If we're just talking HS centers, in ESPNs Top 50 centers, from #40-50 include 3 not yet signed and others going to W. Mich, Tulane, Valpo, Vermont, UCF, Toledo, and Ohio (not St) along with Utah. 9 of the Top 50 were 6'8" or less, 13 were listed at 6'9" and 3 of these 22 were in the top 12 of centers.

[wufan]

I think he meant top 100 overall. There are 16 centers listed in the top 100 on ESPN. Of those signed, all of them are going to the P5 except 2. One is going to Georgetown of the Big East and one to UCF in the AAC.

[Rlh04d]

Probably a lot. If we're just talking HS centers, in ESPNs Top 50 centers, from #40-50 include 3 not yet signed and others going to W. Mich, Tulane, Valpo, Vermont, UCF, Toledo, and Ohio (not St) along with Utah. 9 of the Top 50 were 6'8" or less, 13 were listed at 6'9" and 3 of these 22 were in the top 12 of centers.

I'm guessing he meant centers in the top 100. Otherwise, yeah, it's a lot.

[asiseeit]

In a pre game discussion GM recently addressed the two legit centers we already have and
was very positive about them both. I remembering him saying something like just wait until
you see what these guys will look like physically next year. We have the potential for another
three headed monster. With fifteen fouls to give I think we will be improved in the paint
defensively. GM said BW was working hard on basic low post moves and improving. RN
already has all the skill sets inside and out and only needs upper body strength which he was
excited about addressing. If he puts on 15 pounds of muscle much of what he lacks
defensively will be remedied. I, for one, believe that RN's age is a positive, after all, Wisconsin
beat KU with maturity.

[Signman]

I think the height to the top of the head of a basketball player is almost irrelevant. If it were necessary to head the ball in like soccer then it might be important. It would be nice to see reach and wing span measurements in addition to height & weight.

[60Shock]

Also what's inside the head and gut as well.

[SHOCKvalue]

D'oh ... I gave them credit for a S16 this year instead of an E8.

Two E8's, 4 S16's. Although 6 times of achieving the S16 or better.

Yeah, I kind of assumed you just forgot.

[Signman]

Also what's inside the head and gut as well.

Agreed.

[wufan]

In a pre game discussion GM recently addressed the two legit centers we already have and
was very positive about them both. I remembering him saying something like just wait until
you see what these guys will look like physically next year. We have the potential for another
three headed monster. With fifteen fouls to give I think we will be improved in the paint
defensively. GM said BW was working hard on basic low post moves and improving. RN
already has all the skill sets inside and out and only needs upper body strength which he was
excited about addressing. If he puts on 15 pounds of muscle much of what he lacks
defensively will be remedied. I, for one, believe that RN's age is a positive, after all, Wisconsin
beat KU with maturity.

Thanks for sharing that. That is very positive news.