Swings and Misses

[shocka khan]

Switch to decaf.
:-)

That's funny!!! ,I'm sorry, Iits all good,. Best to you!!!!!

[shocka khan]

Too much vino tinto. Feliz Santa Semana!!!

[asiseeit]

Don't see many misses. I don't believe there were many of you believing we would reach the
S16. TG, RH, CH are all good looking players but they play for WSU behind better guys. That
situation will only get tougher for them next year. BW really came on late defensively and with
another 10-15 pounds of muscle should give us a really good defensive option next year. ZB
is an athlete with very good potential at both ends of the court. GM has said that RN will be
a stronger improved player and I believe him. SM will be out of DC's shadow and ready to give
us 16-20 minutes of quality center play. We have a great recruiting class coming in. We kept
our coach and beat KU. A lot more hits than misses and a great future ! Lets not obsess with
misses and focus on successes !

[wufan]

Don't see many misses. I don't believe there were many of you believing we would reach the
S16. TG, RH, CH are all good looking players but they play for WSU behind better guys. That
situation will only get tougher for them next year. BW really came on late defensively and with
another 10-15 pounds of muscle should give us a really good defensive option next year. ZB
is an athlete with very good potential at both ends of the court. GM has said that RN will be
a stronger improved player and I believe him. SM will be out of DC's shadow and ready to give
us 16-20 minutes of quality center play. We have a great recruiting class coming in. We kept
our coach and beat KU. A lot more hits than misses and a great future ! Lets not obsess with
misses and focus on successes !

Great post! I agree with it across the board. Also, Rashard Kelly! He was so close to being a stud, but never quite broke out. He has all kinds of moves in the post, but I think he tried to do all of them at once. The game will slow down for him a ton this summer and he will stop turning the ball over when he is wide open.

[shockmonster]

My expectations are not high, I'm expecting something around 8 ppt and 5 rpg for Bush. He only needs to be good enough on offense to relieve a little pressure on backcourt scoring

I was thinking I was optimistic and I was just hoping for improvement to 5pts and 3 rebounds a game for BWam.

[SHOXAAC]

That's funny!!! ,I'm sorry, Iits all good,. Best to you!!!!!

You too buddy.

[Dave Stalwart]

@asiseeit:, that's a good reminder. We made the sweet sixteen and these guys were a part of that team. Even if some guys didn't look amazing, they are gaining experience on a team that wins. They are also freshman and I fall victim to immediately setting some kind of unrealistic bar based on Toure, Cle, Fred, Ron, Tekele, etc. Expecting any freshman to be these guys is not smart. It doesn't necessarily mean anyone is a bust just because they aren't able to hang with legends as freshman.

[ROOT ANGRY!]

Yes, I like Nurger's upside. SM in the NBA? Not unless he grows 2-3 inches. Now, RN may
not pan out as I expect but I watched him closely this season as I wanted him to succeed.
Most noticed from the get go he can shoot from the perimeter. I think that is a given. He rarely
posted up, wasn't asked to in our offense, but the few times he did he showed remarkably good
moves right AND left with the left hand. He has taken a lot of criticism defensively but I thought
he moved his feet pretty darn well for his size and was charged with a lot of tickytac fouls. If
he gains 15-20 pounds of muscle I think you are going to see a very good post up player by
mid season next year and an improved defensive player. For BW to be a valuable asset all he
needs to do is add 10-15 pounds of muscle and a little more aggressiveness. I think we will
be pretty well set at center but, of course, if a 4/5 star center is available we should certainly
grab him.

i hope nurger's watching kentucky-wisconsin, dekker and kaminsky in particular, and getting ready to hit the weights and work on his dribble drive

[asiseeit]

Frank Kamisnsky, POY Wisc, only had 23 FG his freshman year and only averaged 7.7 minutes
a game. Keep that in mind. Also, Wisconsin does not have ANY McD's AA's on their team

[Dave Stalwart]

Frank Kamisnsky, POY Wisc, only had 23 FG his freshman year and only averaged 7.7 minutes
a game. Keep that in mind. Also, Wisconsin does not have ANY McD's AA's on their team

HE'S A BUST!

[ShockTalk]

Frank Kamisnsky, POY Wisc, only had 23 FG his freshman year and only averaged 7.7 minutes
a game. Keep that in mind. Also, Wisconsin does not have ANY McD's AA's on their team

They have several Top 100 players. The key for me is that there were no freshmen that played tonight, 4 seniors (all were among the 7 that played meaningful minutes), 1 junior, and 3 sophomores.

[Bluzrover]

All 3 of them have certain good points. Each of them could improve. Expecting 3 out of 3 to improve is asking a lot.

I don't think that it's too big a stretch for all three to improve, maybe not all of them improve as much as we'd like. But to say all three won't improve is a great disservice to 3G and his assistants.

[KC Shox]

Frank Kamisnsky, POY Wisc, only had 23 FG his freshman year and only averaged 7.7 minutes
a game. Keep that in mind. Also, Wisconsin does not have ANY McD's AA's on their team

Yep, the same can be said about Kelly Olynyk. His first two years at Gonzaga he averaged 3.8 and 5.8 PPG then exploded to average 17 his junior year. One common thread with these two that can't be taught, height. 7 footers you can shoot the 'J', hard to defend.

[Aargh]

All 3 of them have certain good points. Each of them could improve. Expecting 3 out of 3 to improve is asking a lot.

I don't think anyone doubts the expression, "The best thing about Freshmen is that they become sophomores".

I expect all of the Freshmen (who are still here next year) to show substantial improvement.

Brown was already playing at a level where he doesn't need improvement to be a big contributor, but I expect he will make substantial progress. His injury kept him from showing what he could do for a while. We already have FredEx. Now we've got "What can Brown do for you". Would be nice to have a "mailman" to go along with that group.

Kelly could be that "mailman". None of us saw Early as a Fr. We can't say whether he would have looked better than Kelly in his first year out of HS. Yoiu've got to remember, Kelly was trying to transition from HS to D1 playing with VanVleet, Baker, and Cotton. Those guys can makle things happen very quickly. That can be hard to adjust to.

Nurger needs 20 pounds of muscle and 100 pounds of tough. But, imagine Stutz trying to break in (as a Fr) on a top-10 team. I think Rosenboom can do a lot with Nuirger. A summer of playing against Morris (banging inside) and Kelly (quick and athletic) could do wonders for Nurger's game.

I almost forgot about Morris, because he didn't look like a Fr by the end of the year. Morris was more firmly entrenched in Marshall's doghouse than Durley - and that's saying something. Morris made a huge turnaround and actually started looking like a "hustle" guy. I think that as he sees what success he can have, he will become dedicated to upping his conditioning, performance, and strength. Next year we could start seeing signs of a 6'7", 270 hustle guy who's pretty athletic and has some hustle and quickness in his game.

[Shoxthemonkey]

^^^^ That is exactly what I wanted to say but didn't want to type all of those words.