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  • I'd be satisfied if the NCAA took the step of allowing players who have redshirted to be able to play immediately, or at least not lose their year of eligibility while they sit out a season.
    You miss 100% of the shots you don't take....

    .....but, statistically speaking, you miss 99% of the shots you do take.

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    • In regards to Cleveland State, maybe there is an underlying issue as to why SO MANY guys leave that program. You can be mad at the rule, but not every team is losing 3 guys a year to the rule. I think Cleveland State got the short end of the stick, but it might be from the coach choking up on his grip.
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      • There are a lot of ways of looking at the transfer rules. While I do think the student athlete should be the first priority, I don't feel like they should be able to just up and move anytime they want to without adequate reason or some penalty to dissuade them from moving from one school to Kentucky for a higher salary. I don't know if a year of sitting on the bench is the right answer or not, but there needs to be something in place. The other side of that is that as far as the "graduate transfer" rule, if I understand it correctly, it is meant as a year of post-graduate studies. For example, if Ron had wanted to get a masters in finance, and that masters degree was offered at Oklahoma, but not at WSU, he should be able to transfer to continue his education without penalty. I believe this is what the rule was originally intended to do, but as are most NCAA rules, it has become more of a recruiting tool than anything else.
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        • After 4 years, the player has fulfilled their commitment to that university. They should be free to do whatever.

          I believe at the very least, a player should be free to transfer with no sit out year when a coaching change occurs at their school.
          "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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          • Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post
            After 4 years, the player has fulfilled their commitment to that university. They should be free to do whatever.

            I believe at the very least, a player should be free to transfer with no sit out year when a coaching change occurs at their school.
            I think it can be solved very simply, Set a date, early on before the major recruiting periods. If that graduating student intends to transfer and notifies the school before the date, you don't have to sit out a year, if you wait past that date to notify the school, you have to sit out a year. This might even work for ALL students, not just graduate students. Then the school isn't put in a bad position with having key players leave after recruiting periods are over, but still gives the students flexibility to transfer if they feel its in their best interest.

            Also, I agree, coach leaves .. students get a free transfer pass for X days/weeks/months after that announcement.

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            • Originally posted by Steeleshocker View Post
              I say remove the one year sit out period. Or at the very least allow players who have already redshirted to play immediately so they don't lose a year.
              I like the idea of allowing redshirts to transfer and play right away, too. But for anyone else, no -- it would be open season on guys at about 250 schools, and even some consistently strong programs outside Division 1. For lots of players, their seasons would become a combination of games and tryouts for a better opportunity. There's enough of that already (and the poaching that accompanies it) without making it even worse. If players want that, they can go to juco.

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              • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                I'm a fan of this. Allow players a one-time transfer w/o having to sit out.
                That would be beyond awful.

                College basketball would turn into a complete **** show.
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                • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
                  That would be beyond awful.

                  College basketball would turn into a complete **** show.
                  Too funny. Mr Obvious. You copied a previous post but of course you had to throw in a vulgarity.

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                  • Grady has watched his teammates leave Cleavland State like rats leaving a sinking ship. He can stay at a place he isn't happy or go a place that has need of his skill set and may contend for a national championship. What you do in his position?

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                    • This is truly an offseason discussion. It has gone from a few, not liking the idea that a graduate can transfer anywhere
                      (Most don't have a major problem with this), to any player being able to transfer, anytime, anywhere, etc. (this is a ludicrous idea).

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                      • Every year hundreds of athletes are let go to look for another place to play. This is one rule that is slanted to the benefit of the athlete. If the kid gets his degree, he should be able to decide how to spend his next year, whether it be playing ball at his school, a new school, or getting on with life.

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                        • Originally posted by Mr. Obvious View Post
                          Too funny. Mr Obvious. You copied a previous post but of course you had to throw in a vulgarity.
                          Still following me around and grabbing ahold of my testicles I see. Too predictable Mr. Wedel.
                          Deuces Valley.
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                          • Here is another one of the ESPN articles about surveying coaches anonymously about various topics. This article discusses the thought of changing up the NCAA Tournament...Power 5 separation, changing auto bids to regular season champions, and even making basketball a one-semester sport. Interesting thoughts...although I chuckled at this quote.

                            "There are schools like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, Creighton, Villanova and Xavier at which garnering interest in regular-season games is never an issue -- even against their football-focused counterparts."

                            One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn't belong.

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                            • Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
                              Creighton... garnering interest in regular-season games is never an issue -- even against their football-focused counterparts.
                              I wonder what the groupon deal was for?

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                              • Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
                                Here is another one of the ESPN articles about surveying coaches anonymously about various topics. This article discusses the thought of changing up the NCAA Tournament...Power 5 separation, changing auto bids to regular season champions, and even making basketball a one-semester sport. Interesting thoughts...although I chuckled at this quote.

                                "There are schools like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, Creighton, Villanova and Xavier at which garnering interest in regular-season games is never an issue -- even against their football-focused counterparts."

                                One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn't belong.

                                When they mentioned Creighton, maybe they were referring to how a majority of the fan base is Husker football fans first and foremost. Still, lol.

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