OFFICAL: WSU vs KU

[Kung Wu]

Are you suggesting that there was not a rule violation and I am not referring to a bloody nose.

It seems to me that some is charging or someone is blocking.

At the time it happened, I thought it was a block and jumped up and said so. I still do after watching it again.

Despite what is said by the announcers (Webber I believe), Ellis did not always have his arms up straight and Ellis never established position. Ellis was still moving to the side as FVV started his jump, as FVV started up Ellis's arms were not straight up and only when Ellis bodied Fred did this arms go straight up, and after the contact, Ellis continued to go side ways (not straight back) in the direction his initial movement was taking him.

This is around the 5:50 mark of the first half. If any one knows how to do a clip of the play and run it in slow motion, I think it will be very obvious.

Yes, he did slide over at the last second. But I felt like that because he continued to slide across and past FVV's path he was no longer impeding FVV's line to the basket when FVV elevated. That's why my reaction was that there shouldn't be a block. Ellis' arm does bang FVV's though.

[jdshock]

At the time it happened, I thought it was a block and jumped up and said so. I still do after watching it again.

Despite what is said by the announcers (Webber I believe), Ellis did not always have his arms up straight and Ellis never established position. Ellis was still moving to the side as FVV started his jump, as FVV started up Ellis's arms were not straight up and only when Ellis bodied Fred did this arms go straight up, and after the contact, Ellis continued to go side ways (not straight back) in the direction his initial movement was taking him.

This is around the 5:50 mark of the first half. If any one knows how to do a clip of the play and run it in slow motion, I think it will be very obvious.

I think you are right. I made a gif of it.


https://gfycat.com/ThriftySoulfulIndigobunting

Ellis takes off from easily inside the paint but lands outside of it because of his sideways motion.

[ShockerEngineer]

I think you are right. I made a gif of it.


https://gfycat.com/ThriftySoulfulIndigobunting

Ellis takes off from easily inside the paint but lands outside of it because of his sideways motion.

Block City.

[jdshock]

Block City.

FVV's move is something incredible. He starts out on Perry's left side and while in the air is able to move his body around to Perry's right side (assisted by Perry's sideways movement. this is also what resulted in the elbow to the face. FVV's attempt to pull his elbows in to get around Perry.). It's like a ridiculous double clutch through tons of contact. He ultimately gets what looks like a pretty good shot off. The first time, I didn't notice but Perry's hand actually ends up back on FVV's shoulder as FVV is releasing the ball. There was definitely enough contact that Perry should've been called for a foul. FVV is just an incredible athlete.

[OregonShocker]

How can you call a charge when the guy literally JUMPS sideways to get in your way towards the basket?

[bleednblackngold]

How can you call a charge when the guy literally JUMPS sideways to get in your way towards the basket?

You cant-bloody beak happens!

[OregonShocker]

Does anyone know if there is a link to listen to a replay of the game from the KU broadcast?

WTF for??? Here, let me give you a summary..."KU...drives it...shot up...MISSED! NO FOUL! Here comes WSU...dunk...Hawks down 12" Or this..."Mason...drives baseline...NO FOUL! Tosses the ball back to Oubre...someone stepped in front of it! NO FOUL! WSU...dunk."

[shoxlax]

WTF for??? Here, let me give you a summary..."KU...drives it...shot up...MISSED! NO FOUL! Here comes WSU...dunk...Hawks down 12" Or this..."Mason...drives baseline...NO FOUL! Tosses the ball back to Oubre...someone stepped in front of it! NO FOUL! WSU...dunk."

No seriously someone find me a link. All my sadistic pleasures will be satisfied

[OregonShocker]

No seriously someone find me a link. All my sadistic pleasures will be satisfied

I think they deleted it from the archive already...

[wusphlash]

Was sitting here thinking about last weekend. A couple times it has come up about Ron and his affinity for KU growing up. Also, that he had a Kirk H poster in his bedroom. Just wondering how many youngsters in Kansas, hell, across the country, have Ron Baker hanging on their wall. How cool is that.

[WuDrWu]

Are you suggesting that there was not a rule violation and I am not referring to a bloody nose.

It seems to me that some is charging or someone is blocking.

I spoke with 3 good, experienced, fair and knowledgeable officials today.

To a man they agreed the shot to the nose was a basketball play and was just an unfortunate by product of such.

2 believed that technically it was a block but they would have passed because it was fairly tame.

The third believed a block should have been called.

All three laughed at the possibility of either an intentional foul or a charge.

None would be considered WSU guys, although certainly they know what's going on.

FWIW

[Shocker Mama]

Was sitting here thinking about last weekend. A couple times it has come up about Ron and his affinity for KU growing up. Also, that he had a Kirk H poster in his bedroom. Just wondering how many youngsters in Kansas, hell, across the country, have Ron Baker hanging on their wall. How cool is that.

Bet there are a lot. Some girls, just because he's a cutie.

[WSUShokker]

Don't post much I do enjoy the information, and some of the banter.. anywho.. I had not seen this if so sorry for repeating if it is already posted elsewhere.
CBS College Sports channel HD Cox ch 2260 is replaying games but they are not listing a lot the teams saying tbd.. I did find though on their website March 26th at 1pm the will be replaying the Wichita State vs KU game.

http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/schedule/cbssn

[ShockRef]

I spoke with 3 good, experienced, fair and knowledgeable officials today.

To a man they agreed the shot to the nose was a basketball play and was just an unfortunate by product of such.

2 believed that technically it was a block but they would have passed because it was fairly tame.

The third believed a block should have been called.

All three laughed at the possibility of either an intentional foul or a charge.

None would be considered WSU guys, although certainly they know what's going on.

FWIW

1) It was clearly a basketball play. Definitely not an F1 or even remotely close to an F2.
2) Clearly not a blocking foul. Ellis established a legal guarding position and was vertical during his elevation.

It was a very good 'no call'.

That is all.

[wusphlash]

Don't post much I do enjoy the information, and some of the banter.. anywho.. I had not seen this if so sorry for repeating if it is already posted elsewhere.
CBS College Sports channel HD Cox ch 2260 is replaying games but they are not listing a lot the teams saying tbd.. I did find though on their website March 26th at 1pm the will be replaying the Wichita State vs KU game.

http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/schedule/cbssn

Thanks. I was so wound up I neglected to hit the record button until halftime. I'll certainly feel better having the whole game.