Missouri Valley Conference Post Season Honors

[1972Shocker]

Paul Suellentrop blogs about the MVC post-season honors and includes links to some of the other ballots from Valley media types.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/shockwaves/article11908850.html

[Cdizzle]

http://wcfcourier.com/sports/blogs/coach_carson/the-courier-s-all-mvc-ballot/article_d48db328-c043-11e4-b1fd-33214dae4035.html

Check out the UNI beat writer's CoY voting.

[1972Shocker]

http://wcfcourier.com/sports/blogs/c...14dae4035.html

Check out the UNI beat writer's CoY voting.

Yes, that caught my eye. OTOH Todd Golden, Indiana State's beat writer had 4 Shockers on his first team. I don't expect that will be the final overall result but I was a little surprised to see that.

He also gave 3G he nod over BJ as COY although I am not sure it is for the right reason. While it is true that the Shockers had a great trio of guards returning and a couple of very solid, experienced players in Carter and Wessel to fill out the starting lineup I don't think 3G get's the credit he deserves for adding 8 D-1 newbies to the mix including 6 freshman and getting he results we have enjoyed this year.

BJ did a great job at UNI this year but he has the probable Valley POY and a team heavily populated by Seniors and Juniors. He is benefiting from his underperformance last year. OTOH 3G is probably hurt by his outperformance last year.

Nevertheless I expect BJ to be COY and Seth Tuttle to be POY and I really don't have much trouble with that.

[ShockerFever]

http://wcfcourier.com/sports/blogs/c...14dae4035.html

Check out the UNI beat writer's CoY voting.

He was on Sports Daily a couple of times. Seemed more like a UNI fan than a beat writer.

Sour grapes hurt.

[shocka khan]

Hard not to argue with Tuttle as POY.

Interesting that Shaq Morris made a couple (maybe 3?) all newcomer squads. Some people grumble about our front-line newcomers, but for Shaq to receive some consideration for this honor on such a loaded team tells you a lot about what other people think his ceiling might be.

[1972Shocker]

FYI on voting procedures:

Four individuals from each institution will cast his/her ballot:head coach, sports information director, newspaper beat writerand radio play-by-play. MVC TV Network play-by-play and analysts will also serve on the voting panel.

Votes will be weighted with coaches' votes comprising 40% of the total.

See Section 6.3: https://www.mvcadmin.org/forms/procedures/MBB.pdf

[shocka khan]

Just so you folks know, Sullentrop also voted Lansing as COY (he could not vote for Marshall), so it looks like some of the voters (ironic that they're from UNI and WSU) think that Lansing did a good job.

[AndShock]

Just so you folks know, Sullentrop also voted Lansing as COY (he could not vote for Marshall), so it looks like some of the voters (ironic that they're from UNI and WSU) think that Lansing did a good job.

Ugh

A 300+ non-con RPI should remove you from CoY consideration. Let's not start rewarding Evansvilling.

[1972Shocker]

The SIU Media Relations Director to vote for 3G for COY acknowledging what I commented on above regarding having to incorporate 8 newbies into the mix. Of course Fred, Ron, Tekele, Darius and Evan deserve a lot of credit in helping 3G in dealing with all the newbies.

[Dave Stalwart]

Here's the case for Lansing now that it's March. I'm not sure I disagree so much now that we are here. I made fun of it two months ago, but now it's a little more believable.

1. You can never give it to Muller. He is exempt.
2. Moser tanked.
3. Simmons tanked.
4. Obviously, the Thursday teams arent under consideration. Unless you coached a high school team to 6th place in the MVC.
NOTE: you are now choosing between Marshall, Jacobsen and Lansing.
5. You can't vote for Marshall if you are Paul S. or if you are butt hurt and from UNI.

Conclusion: if you are from UNI, and you are butt hurt or tired of watching HCGM ownage, you have no choice but to go Lansing because you can't vote Jacobsen. Lansing did finish third after all and they were REALLY bad in December. There was some element of resurgence to get back to .500.

If you are Paul S you have to choose between the team that did exactly what they were projected to do or the team that started terrible and finished well.

Greg Lansing.

[AZ Shocker]

Interesting that Shaq Morris made a couple (maybe 3?) all newcomer squads.

Awesome!!!! He'll go for 20 in the Lou!!! :)

[Dave Stalwart]

He gives Jack Hole-etti a vote? Bahahahaha!

Okay that's where I draw the line. I draw the line on Thursday.

I wonder if this makes Bruce Weber COY in the Big 12? He did win two Super Bowls in one season that was otherwise terrible.

[pie n eye]

I don't think it's a big deal or sour grapes that UNI guy voted for who he did. If you asked him who the best coach in the Valley is he would probably say Gregg Marshall but that doesn't mean he has to vote for him year after year. It's like the NBA MVP voter fatigue. Lebron is probably the best player in the league but he doesn't get MVP every year cause it's boring. Lansing turned a 4-8 team into 3rd place in the Valley and Giacoletti navigated drake out of the play in game for the first time in forever.

Gregg Marshall is the best coach in the MVC. But it wouldn't be an outrage if Jacobson, Lansing, or to a much lesser extent Giacoletti won COY.

[Shockeriffic]

Here's the case for Lansing now that it's March. I'm not sure I disagree so much now that we are here. I made fun of it two months ago, but now it's a little more believable.

1. You can never give it to Muller. He is exempt.
2. Moser tanked.
3. Simmons tanked.
4. Obviously, the Thursday teams arent under consideration. Unless you coached a high school team to 6th place in the MVC.
NOTE: you are now choosing between Marshall, Jacobsen and Lansing.
5. You can't vote for Marshall if you are Paul S. or if you are butt hurt and from UNI.

Conclusion: if you are from UNI, and you are butt hurt or tired of watching HCGM ownage, you have no choice but to go Lansing because you can't vote Jacobsen. Lansing did finish third after all and they were REALLY bad in December. There was some element of resurgence to get back to .500.

If you are Paul S you have to choose between the team that did exactly what they were projected to do or the team that started terrible and finished well.

Greg Lansing.

I'd also add that you can't vote for Jacobsen even if you aren't from UNI. Anyone that starts Mitchell over Washpun for the entire season cannot be COY.

[Rosewood]

I just want TK on the first team and a shocker POY