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Originally posted by SHOXMVC View PostNo flame here. I took plenty of matches for my comments about EO, which I still love the kid off the floor. Bush-wam will be as invisible on the floor as EO's first year. Probably equally so next year, but the year after...watch out.
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I'm not posting this in a manner dismissing SH as a farce because they very well might give us a run for the money, but...
Kenpom has their SOS thus far at 285, so their 7-0 record tells us nothing. They've played kenpom #'s 55, 97, 173, 188, 202, 223, and 275, with an average margin of victory of a little over 14 points. Included in those figures is a 4 point win against MVC #1 and AP #10 team in the country, 3-3 ISU Red.
Comparatively, kenpom has our SOS thus far at 32. We've played and beat kenpom #'s 68 (Tulsa), 76 (Memphis), 83 (NMSU), and 167 (SLU), and won those match-ups by an average margin of roughly 20 points. And the average there is not being skewed by a blowout; if a median were calculated it would be about the same.
Rutgers, the team SH just beat by 27, is worse (according to kenpom) than any D1 team we have played yet this year.
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Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View PostI'm not posting this in a manner dismissing SH as a farce because they very well might give us a run for the money, but...
Kenpom has their SOS thus far at 285, so their 7-0 record tells us nothing. They've played kenpom #'s 55, 97, 173, 188, 202, 223, and 275, with an average margin of victory of a little over 14 points. Included in those figures is a 4 point win against MVC #1 and AP #10 team in the country, 3-3 ISU Red.
Comparatively, kenpom has our SOS thus far at 32. We've played and beat kenpom #'s 68 (Tulsa), 76 (Memphis), 83 (NMSU), and 167 (SLU), and won those match-ups by an average margin of roughly 20 points. And the average there is not being skewed by a blowout; if a median were calculated it would be about the same.
Rutgers, the team SH just beat by 27, is worse (according to kenpom) than any D1 team we have played yet this year.Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!
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Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View PostI'm not posting this in a manner dismissing SH as a farce because they very well might give us a run for the money, but...
Kenpom has their SOS thus far at 285, so their 7-0 record tells us nothing. They've played kenpom #'s 55, 97, 173, 188, 202, 223, and 275, with an average margin of victory of a little over 14 points. Included in those figures is a 4 point win against MVC #1 and AP #10 team in the country, 3-3 ISU Red.
Comparatively, kenpom has our SOS thus far at 32. We've played and beat kenpom #'s 68 (Tulsa), 76 (Memphis), 83 (NMSU), and 167 (SLU), and won those match-ups by an average margin of roughly 20 points. And the average there is not being skewed by a blowout; if a median were calculated it would be about the same.
Rutgers, the team SH just beat by 27, is worse (according to kenpom) than any D1 team we have played yet this year.
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I looked at their board. A lot of them were pretty reasonable. Even the people that picked Seton Hall to win were mostly giving us credit.
I get frustrated with those folks who don't want to give us our due because we "haven't played anyone" in the last year and a half. It's no wonder that people always claim they had a down game after they lose to us. If you crap all over your opponent before the game, you have to provide an excuse once you lose. Teams like Louisville and UK don't have to do that to their opponents which is why they were complimentary (for the most part) before, during, and after the games we had against them.
Even just a couple comments like that make me want Tekele and the gang ensure their team has "an interesting night."
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Originally posted by ShockerFever View PostShox opened at -12.5. It went down to -11 yesterday and has since pushed back up to -12.5 and in some cases -13. Late money hedging towards WSU.
I personally think it's a tad on the high end.
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Originally posted by SHOXMVC View PostI'm not much of a gambler, but I am fascinated by the general accuracy of the point spread process in Vegas. Take KU's game vs. Florida. After watching the carnage featured in that game, KU's spread was 7 in their 6 point win.
I agree it is fun to watch how crazy accurate they are.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Vegas is really smart at picking spreads, but always remember that the spread isn't necessarily what Vegas thinks the game will be apart, it is what they expect will get even bets. Most of the time it's right on the money because it's even enough that the betting public will go evenly both ways, but there are always teams that people bet heavily when favorited, and also teams that the public are always underestimating.
The Shockers tend to be underestimated over the past few years. Currently 4-0 against the spread, and in 13-14 WSU was 25-7-1 against the spread.
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