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  • #16
    Originally posted by capnkirk View Post
    I thought AM stations could be picked up in remote areas when FM. channels struggle and would fade in and out?
    AM radio has huge range (also huge static) if the broadcasting station has the exclusive FCC rights to the area. The FCC allows a lot of local AM stations to have daytime coverage, but at sundown, local stations reduce their power and the few stations with nighttime rights take over.

    The 1480 license, out of Wichita, lowers their power to less than covering all of Wichita at sundown. 1520, out of Oklahoma City, bumps their power at sundown because they had the regional rights to this area before the 1480 local license was granted. The same holds for 910, out of Wichita, and 890, out of Chicago.

    Wichita has no AM licenses with nighttime rights to anything other than very localized broadcasting.

    FM doesn't reach as far as AM, but with different FCC regulations, the signal is constant through their coverage and they are not competing with previously granted HUGE broadcastin areas, like AM. That means that the local FM stations have about a 90 mile range daytime and nighttime (depending on the antenna on your radio), while the local AM stations have a 10-mile to 30-mile range after sundown, depending on your direction from their tower.
    Last edited by Aargh; August 27, 2014, 10:58 PM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Aargh View Post
      AM radio has huge range (also huge static) if the broadcasting station has the exclusive FCC rights to the area. The FCC allows a lot of local AM stations to have daytime coverage, but at sundown, local stations reduce their power and the few stations with nighttime rights take over.

      The 1480 license, out of Wichita, lowers their power to less than covering all of Wichita at sundown. 1520, out of Oklahoma City, bumps their power at sundown because they had the regional rights to this area before the 1480 local license was granted. The same holds for 910, out of Wichita, and 890, out of Chicago.

      Wichita has no AM licenses with nighttime rights to anything other than very localized broadcasting.

      FM doesn't reach as far as AM, but with different FCC regulations, the signal is constant through their coverage and they are not competing with previously granted HUGE broadcastin areas, like AM. That means that the local FM stations have about a 90 mile range daytime and nighttime (depending on the antenna on your radio), while the local AM stations have a 10-mile to 30-mile range after sundown, depending on your direction from their tower.

      Half right. Some AM stations power down, some do not. Clear channel stations (not the company, but the night blow torches) broadcast at full power. Their coverage increases at night because the sun doesn't degrade the signal. Other stations power down to give way to the clear channel station. Also, unlike FM, AM stations use multiple antennas and arrays to shape the signal. If you look at an FM coverage map, it will be a circle, while an AM coverage map looks hodgepodged.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
        Half right. Some AM stations power down, some do not. Clear channel stations (not the company, but the night blow torches) broadcast at full power. Their coverage increases at night because the sun doesn't degrade the signal. Other stations power down to give way to the clear channel station. Also, unlike FM, AM stations use multiple antennas and arrays to shape the signal. If you look at an FM coverage map, it will be a circle, while an AM coverage map looks hodgepodged.
        The "more than half right" explanation I had before I erased it was longer than most readers would tolerate. I cut it down to try to make the point before total reader boredom was encountered.
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        • #19
          Great news! Now I just HOPE the "production" gets better as well. Mike and guest are great at what they do...but the sound quality was piss-poor. Sounded like a high school production and broadcasting out of a trash can for the most part. Lol I'm stoked for this move!!!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Aargh View Post
            The "more than half right" explanation I had before I erased it was longer than most readers would tolerate. I cut it down to try to make the point before total reader boredom was encountered.
            Sorry. I used to work in radio. I sometimes start to geek out about it. That said, my explanations aren't totally accurate either. But talk to a station engineer and they will geek out for hours on how an AM signal is shaped to meet FCC coverage.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
              Sorry. I used to work in radio. I sometimes start to geek out about it. That said, my explanations aren't totally accurate either. But talk to a station engineer and they will geek out for hours on how an AM signal is shaped to meet FCC coverage.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Shocker-maniac View Post
                Watts going on with the frequency of these posts?
                I don't know, but all of this talk of radio really Hertz my head

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                • #23
                  Sad about volleyball and women's basketball. I much preferred using a tune-in app on the phone that could pick up radio stations versus trying to play the internet feed through a browser.

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                  • #24
                    In general, this is a good move for men's basketball. However, I agree that women's basketball and volleyball are really taking a backseat here. Are they really that crammed on both the AM and FM signal to where they have to get eliminated altogether? Isn't there gonna be a gap on the AM side now that basketball is moving off of there? Why can't the other sports be moved there? I dunno. Seems like an iffy move there.

                    We really need a statewide network though and I was hoping something would happen with this new media property move. People in Scott City or Dodge City should have just as much of an option for WSU basketball to listen to as they do Kitty Cat basketball.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                      FM is line of sight and based on signal strength. AM uses the ground for much of its transmission. Depending on soil conditions, especially at night, a strong AM signal can travel a long, long way. Also, all other factors being equal, lower on the AM dial travels furthest.
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                      • #26
                        This is a step backward and a misstep by my alma mater.

                        Edit: as it pertains to ladies basketball & volleyball.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by capnkirk View Post
                          I thought AM stations could be picked up in remote areas when FM. channels struggle and would fade in and out?
                          Typically, but that assumes the AM transmitting equipment isn't vintage WWII surplus. So in this specific case, not so much.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ShockerMas View Post
                            I don't know, but all of this talk of radio really Hertz my head
                            Originally posted by Shocker-maniac View Post
                            Watts going on with the frequency of these posts?
                            You guys are Hams.
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                            • #29
                              None of these will really affect me any. I very seldom listen to the men and women's games on the radio. I probably listen 95% of the time online, even when I'm in range of the radio signal.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                                Typically, but that assumes the AM transmitting equipment isn't vintage WWII surplus. So in this specific case, not so much.
                                Speaking of which, the real question is do Kennedy and the rest of the broadcast teams have access to non-archaic equipment that won't cut out every 3-27 minutes.

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