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  • Hard to picture ND as a top ten team, but the ones who are really being victimized by the Irish are the UNI fans and their top ten dreams. Being in the top ten is nice, but for WSU it's (relatively, and certainly by MVC standards) old hat. The UNIs have never been there, though, and there's just one team in the way...

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    • Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio View Post
      Have I run off into the ditch again?
      "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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      • Originally posted by ROOT ANGRY! View Post
        just to note: petro ranked us higher than most for the majority of the season, consistently ahead of KU, until we stubbed our toe at UNI. dropped from #10 to #16 and has stayed there since. Looks like it will take a bigger nudge than a win a illinois state to bump us back up
        Just this afternoon, he reiterated that that if the power conference teams below Gonzaga, UNI and WSU keep winning, he will continue put vote those teams ahead of these three due to their beating bad teams. Respects all three but he follows the herd mentality...
        Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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        • Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
          IMO the likelihood the Shockers return to a Top Ten Ranking this year is problematic. If the following games occur, the Shockers could achieve a Top Ten Ranking:
          1. Shockers win all remaining games
          2. Utah loses to Arizona on February 28
          3. Notre Dame loses to Louisville on March 4
          4. Louisville loses to Virginia on March 7

          If those games should unfold then the Shockers could be ranked #10 and capture a 3 seed in the Big Dance.
          Teams in the power conferences above and below us will have to lose...
          Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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          • We will have no problem whatsoever cracking the Top 10 if we win out. There are 3 AP Polls remaining before the Dance.

            Conference tournaments are a blood bath and winning out would mean two wins in eight days against a team that likely still finishes in the Top 20. Meanwhile, we just moved up 3 spots in the last two weeks with one road win against a barely Top 100 team, two wins against complete creampuffs, and a home win against an almost-exactly-average Indiana State team. Notre Dame, Utah/Arizona, UNI (hopefully), etc. all have losses waiting for them.

            People here are way too quick to cap our ceiling. Remember all those posts last December and January about how, if we won out, we could crack the top ten and maaaaaybe rise as high as #5, but no more, etc.? Dumb to real dumb. 9 seasons out of 10 we would have spent the last several weeks at #1 had Florida not run the table for 3+ months.

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            • Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
              Teams in the power conferences above and below us will have to lose...
              Joco I identified the games the P5 teams ranked ahead of the Shockers are likely to lose; IMO if the Shockers win out no P5 team (Iowa State, UNC and Maryland) currently ranked immediately below the Shockers would jump them in the Polls.

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              • Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
                Joco I identified the games the P5 teams ranked ahead of the Shockers are likely to lose; IMO if the Shockers win out no P5 team (Iowa State, UNC and Maryland) currently ranked immediately below the Shockers would jump them in the Polls.
                Fair enough. Let's win out and see..

                #GOSHOX!!
                Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                • Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
                  Gotta make the case for all those Bogus12 teams..



                  Has Tekele's picture on the home page again tho!!
                  This guy is a fool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EIGHT LOSS Oklahoma AHEAD of WSU????????????????????? WHAT????

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                  • Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
                    Just this afternoon, he reiterated that that if the power conference teams below Gonzaga, UNI and WSU keep winning, he will continue put vote those teams ahead of these three due to their beating bad teams. Respects all three but he follows the herd mentality...
                    Mooo! Mooo! Apparently it doesn't matter when power conference teams beat bad opponents in their own leagues (of whom there are certainly plenty). And what about that OU loss to Creighton? Is that a quality loss because the same team (well, not even the same team, considering that they lost their main guy and his tenured sidekick) is now in a fancy league that isn't even part of the almighty Power 5?

                    Mooo indeed! As in moooron.

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                    • gonna have to disagree with yall about oklahoma. i think we should be ranked above them, but there's an good case for them to be a top 15 team, and i can see how power 5 centrics could put them above us.

                      OU has 9 top 50 wins. no school has more.
                      They're #10 in kenpom, #15 in espn's BPI and #17 in rpi.
                      I don't agree with it, but i can see how someone can rank them higher than us, especially if they're focusing on who teams have beaten, not who they've lost to.

                      our problem is that we're 1-2 against the top 50, with the last loss being an ugly one.

                      if we're a top 10-12 team, it's time to show it by running the table, and showing UNI who's boss. that'll make it a lot harder to ignore our resume.
                      Dominance is a state of mind.

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                      • Originally posted by ROOT ANGRY! View Post
                        gonna have to disagree with yall about oklahoma. i think we should be ranked above them, but there's an good case for them to be a top 15 team, and i can see how power 5 centrics could put them above us.

                        OU has 9 top 50 wins. no school has more.
                        They're #10 in kenpom, #15 in espn's BPI and #17 in rpi.
                        I don't agree with it, but i can see how someone can rank them higher than us, especially if they're focusing on who teams have beaten, not who they've lost to.

                        our problem is that we're 1-2 against the top 50, with the last loss being an ugly one.

                        if we're a top 10-12 team, it's time to show it by running the table, and showing UNI who's boss. that'll make it a lot harder to ignore our resume.
                        Those are fair points IMHO.
                        ShockerNet is a rat infested cess pool.

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                        • Fortunately, OU just started a 4 game stretch against the 4 bottom teams in the Big 12 standings. They have K-State (L), Texas, TTU, TCU, and then Iowa St and KU to finish the season. They started off with a bang against K-State, and if they lose the next 3, they will sort things out for everyone. What I expect from them is a win over the next three opponents, and then two losses against their ranked foes at the end. That's what they should do if they belong in the top 20. What they will actually do is lose every game and then beat KU. That win over KU will keep them in the top 20 because people are nuts. They will go 1-5 to close out the year, falling to 18-13 and improve to #15 because KU. :)

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                          • Any chance us and NIowa both in top 10 for reg season final?

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                            • Originally posted by fansince80s View Post
                              Any chance us and NIowa both in top 10 for reg season final?
                              Maybe a slim chance if Louisville, Notre Dame, and Utah lose this week.

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                              • Originally posted by fansince80s View Post
                                Any chance us and NIowa both in top 10 for reg season final?
                                Negative.
                                Deuces Valley.
                                ... No really, deuces.
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