Our friends at Da Cuse

[kcshocker11]

http://syracusefan.com/threads/wichita-st.68135/

[1972Shocker]

Seemed to be pretty balanced between those who think the Shocks are a fraud and those who think the Shocks are legit.

I assume those who believe we are legit probably remember the last time we played Syracuse. Which I assume will be the last time we ever play them during the regular season.

[shoxlax]

Typical board. Some knowledgeable fans, a few morons, and one or two that need to douche up.

[wufan]

One dude was bagging on us for not scheduling up. That idiot doesnt realize that the Shox and Orange non-con we're basically the same difficulty except we actually traveled. Maybe the ACC is going to send us an invite so we can play a "legit" schedule?

[The Mad Hatter]

One dude was bagging on us for not scheduling up. That idiot doesnt realize that the Shox and Orange non-con we're basically the same difficulty except we actually traveled. Maybe the ACC is going to send us an invite so we can play a "legit" schedule?

Actually, in terms of non-con games (which are the only ones you have any control over scheduling), Syracuse has an SOS of 96 and WSU has an SOS of 46 according to RPI Forecast.

[im4wsu]

Actually, in terms of non-con games (which are the only ones you have any control over scheduling), Syracuse has an SOS of 96 and WSU has an SOS of 46 according to RPI Forecast.

Question maybe for J4HP or anybody, should SOS be adjusted for home, away and neutral games?

[The Mad Hatter]

Question maybe for J4HP or anybody, should SOS be adjusted for home, away and neutral games?

For anyone accurately calculating SOS according to current NCAA RPI standards, it should be adjusted for home, away, and neutral.

[Snapshot9]

I registered there but are unable to post any comments.

[Shox21]

I registered there but are unable to post any comments.

Actually that is probably a good thing. You go post on their board and then get into a pissing contest and you turn into the bad guy. Just stay classy. You shouldn't frankly care what they say. Let them talk.

[shockmonster]

Tip of the Day: Whatever you do, don't make any waves.

[tw805]

I registered there but are unable to post any comments.

You should probably just save yourself the headache. Arguing with a BCS fan is like arguing with your wife: Circular, with ever-changing rules, and going absolutely nowhere in the end. The regular season rankings don't matter, unless it's a BCS team that's ranked. We have no victories over ranked teams, because St. Louis wasn't ranked at the time. But a BCS school is happy to claim wins over ranked teams that later plummeted way outside the rankings or prove to be horribly overrated. (In the case of Syracuse, see Baylor, North Carolina, Indiana, and Notre Dame.) Finally, a BCS school is happy to show off how well it has done in the tournament, especially if it makes the final four. If you point to a run in the tournament that exceeds that of the BCS school, they note that the tournament rewards "getting lucky," "getting hot at the right time," and they note that "if the teams played seven games, we'd win six."

So I think that pretty much sums up what you would have found had you been able to register. That said, I'm not as down on the Syracuse schedule as many on this board. They have a similar argument to ours on why their SOS isn't as much their fault. Except that whole refusing to leave home thing.

[mjbaker84]

You should probably just save yourself the headache. Arguing with a BCS fan is like arguing with your wife: Circular, with ever-changing rules, and going absolutely nowhere in the end. The regular season rankings don't matter, unless it's a BCS team that's ranked. We have no victories over ranked teams, because St. Louis wasn't ranked at the time. But a BCS school is happy to claim wins over ranked teams that later plummeted way outside the rankings or prove to be horribly overrated. (In the case of Syracuse, see Baylor, North Carolina, Indiana, and Notre Dame.) Finally, a BCS school is happy to show off how well it has done in the tournament, especially if it makes the final four. If you point to a run in the tournament that exceeds that of the BCS school, they note that the tournament rewards "getting lucky," "getting hot at the right time," and they note that "if the teams played seven games, we'd win six."

So I think that pretty much sums up what you would have found had you been able to register. That said, I'm not as down on the Syracuse schedule as many on this board. They have a similar argument to ours on why their SOS isn't as much their fault. Except that whole refusing to leave home thing.

but some/most of them refuse to realize they have a similar schedule or SOS to Wichita State and ***** about our schedule. How does that make sense? Are there underlying fears that we would beat them in the tourney? They seem to think a round with Creighton, Saint Louis, Wichita State, etc would be a breeze.... That sounds like one of the toughest possible outcomes...not to mention they would...GASP.... be forced to actually play on the road.

[martymoose]

I would recommend staying away from their board...but if you do venture there, just post this link with no argument one way or the other.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=263360183

[Rosewood]

I think my highlight video of that game is still on the youtubes somewhere.

[jdmee]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/WICHST/CUSE

WSU SoS 81
Cuse SoS 72

WSU NonCon SoS 41
Cuse NonCon SoS 105