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Originally posted by 1972Shocker View PostNot sure that is really possible. SIU's collapse under Chris Lowery was something that might be difficult to duplicate even if you were trying to outdo them on the downslide.
1. dismiss entire team
2. recruit coaches and players with a questionable background
3. don't hold them accountable for their actions
Now, after I set that into motion, the following should occur:
1. Lose lots of games
2. Lose control of the team
The only thing that is missing is an administration that allows above said behavior and results to continue uninterrupted.Livin the dream
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The only thing missing part of the equation is in place because they are the ones that brought the coach onto campus and placed him in charge. To rein him in or censure him would be admitting that you screwed up in hiring him and letting it get to this stage. Nothing will happen until it reaches epic/siu proportions.
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In 2007, Southern Illinois was a 4 seed in the NCAA Tournament (its sixth straight NCAA bid), made a Sweet 16, and should have beat Kansas that round (refs made a couple creative calls in that game...imagine that...Beakers getting bad calls to go their way). Three measly years later, the Salukis concluded their season on Thursday night in St. Louis. That is an epic free fall.78-65
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Originally posted by WuShock16 View PostIn 2007, Southern Illinois was a 4 seed in the NCAA Tournament (its sixth straight NCAA bid), made a Sweet 16, and should have beat Kansas that round (refs made a couple creative calls in that game...imagine that...Beakers getting bad calls to go their way). Three measly years later, the Salukis concluded their season on Thursday night in St. Louis. That is an epic free fall.
It's not fair to compare ISU to SIU, because SIU had some amazing basketball teams year after year. Illinois State would have to actually achieve something of significance before we can call it a collapse.
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Originally posted by WuShock16 View PostIn 2007, Southern Illinois was a 4 seed in the NCAA Tournament (its sixth straight NCAA bid), made a Sweet 16, and should have beat Kansas that round (refs made a couple creative calls in that game...imagine that...Beakers getting bad calls to go their way). Three measly years later, the Salukis concluded their season on Thursday night in St. Louis. That is an epic free fall.Shocker Nation, NYC
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Originally posted by MadaboutWu View PostSounds a little like WSU, except GM beat us fair and square and it only took us two years to get bounced on Thursday. After that, things turned around...78-65
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Originally posted by WuShock16 View PostWe also dealt with a coaching change and player changes that come from that. We also hadn't been on a lengthy NCAA bid run like Southern Illinois had.
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How they won 11 Valley games the last 2 seasons I'll never know. Of course 1 of the 11 wins prevented the '10-'11 team from getting into the NCAA tournament, and last years' debacle kept the team from a conference championship, so I'm not going to lose any sleep if we torch them by 40+ in both games this season, even though I respect the hell out of Barry.
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Originally posted by WuShock16 View PostWe also dealt with a coaching change and player changes that come from that. We also hadn't been on a lengthy NCAA bid run like Southern Illinois had.Shocker Nation, NYC
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