Our own school paper....

[SpanglerFan316]

WuDrWu:
1. In my opinion and experience, Don Beggs does not overreact to things but ignores silly comments, etc. and lets them fade away.
2. The Sunflower is a student paper. It is funded by the students (or their parents - like me.) Many students do not see things the way you see them. If there was a poll of students, I suspect that Ryan's views would have some support - perhaps even a majority of students; think about it - 14,000 or 15,000 students and less than 1000 bother to get free tickets to the games.
3. $750,000 per year is a pretty good salary. If Ryan's comments bother Gregg, he isn't the coach we think he is. If "you" give me $750,000 per year, you can criticize me as much as you want.
4. I agree that calling for the coach's job is just stupid but "karma" - in the form of great seasons in 2008-9 and 2009-10 - can be a biatch. Ryan will have egg on his face in a couple years.
5. The article is labeled as "Commentary by Ryan Cornelius" in the print edition. The word "Commentary" sounds a lot more like "Editorial" than like "factual news story" to me. I think you got your knickers in a wad over this label.

[SubGod22]

Editorial or not, this guy is an idiot.

[shox1989]

It sounds like a future Bob Lutz in the making.

[SpanglerFan316]

Editorial or not, this guy is an idiot.

To the extent that everyone who posts on ShockerNet is an idiot, I agree that Ryan is an idiot. We're all passionate fans - we're all "idiots." We could be saving children in Africa or China, building windmills to help combat global warming, patrolling the streets to prevent crime, etc. but, instead, we are here.

[BA2929]

It sounds like a future Bob Lutz in the making.

I don't even think Lutz would stoop as low as to call for a WSU coaches job after 2/3 of a season. Lutz at least has to own up for what he writes - face to face with the coach. But that is what a college paper is for, I guess. Making mistakes and learning from them. If he actually reads some of the commentary online, I bet he never writes another sports column without some significant facts to back up why he believes the coach should be canned or why he's being out-coached each game. It would have been a pretty decent article were it not for these two poor paragraphs:

If you’re looking for someone to be mad at, be mad at Gregg Marshall. The Shockers are losing games not because they are being outplayed, but because they are being out-coached on a nightly basis.

and

Maybe we should chase Marshall out of town, bring back Tad Boyle who left for Northern Colorado and start from scratch. We can find a new Matt Braeuer down in Texas, get another P.J. Couisnard, one who takes control of more games, bring back Sean Ogirri and stop whining about Gal Mekel. Perhaps then we will see a return to greatness or at the very least win half of our Valley games.

Could be sarcastic I suppose. But I really doubt it.

[Rosewood]

What an idiot

[t7017s]

My favorite part was when he said something along the lines of "so after watching a couple games..." Are you freaking kidding me was all I could think. That was before he went off spewing all the crap. He is right about gal though.

[wu_shizzle]

To the extent that everyone who posts on ShockerNet is an idiot, I agree that Ryan is an idiot. We're all passionate fans - we're all "idiots."

Idiot: "person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning"

Speak for yourself...

[BOBB]

My favorite part was when he got 5 pages of Shockernet responses. I bet that that the racks on campus are empty with people reading the paper that normally don't.

The best way to stop hate speech is more reasoned speech. The best way to stop idiotic speech is to ignore it.

[SpanglerFan316]

To the extent that everyone who posts on ShockerNet is an idiot, I agree that Ryan is an idiot. We're all passionate fans - we're all "idiots."

Idiot: "person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning"

Speak for yourself...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you can't laugh at yourself, you're not as good a person as you think you are.

[GarH]

How do you go about reading the comments of readers?

[Snapshot9]

He had some valid points for discussion, but calling for the coaches job definately was out-of-line, based on a lack-of-knowledge about the team, coaches, and situation to begin with. Typically today, it follows suit with the
'Replace-rather-than-repair' attitude in our society. The prevalent attitude
is that if something doesn't work, buy something else, so don't be too awfully hard on him, he is probably a product of his environment.

I believe all coaches go through hard times for awhile when they are in a 'rebuilding phase' of a team and program, and make no mistake, CGM is having to rebuild, not simply replace, and I would say to higher levels than we have experienced in the past few years.

Gal went though a 'learning curve' for the PG position, but he has improved on a steady rate overall, and I am pleased with his playing. He was overly criticized for awhile because his critics failed to recognize that while Gal was trying to make something happen, he was not being helped by his teammates to assist in making something happen.

A lot of our woes are due to poor shooting, which is on the players. We can not miss bunnies and outside shots at the rate we are and win, it is as simple as that. Most of our players do not have what I would call a 'quick release' for a shot, and this could be part of the reason for them missing because they are not getting the time needed to set for a shot. (From what I saw in the video, Toure Murry can help us out in this area).

I have seen times though when I thought we did not adjust in our defense soon enough to help prevent a run by our opponents. Bradley screened us to death, which allowed them many 3 pointers. Our passing is better, but lazy at times. Our offense stands still too long sometimes for a motion offense. We were out further on the perimeter against Bradley than many previous games before.

It is not any one or two things, it is many little things, and that is all it takes to prevent a team from 'clicking'.

I think the recruits next year will help us a lot, but I am not also obilivious to the fact that other Valley teams also have good players coming in, and although enthusiastic about our recruits, try to not let myself get carried away with expectations for next year.

I do think the AJ, Clevin, David, and Toure will add a lot, and that Garrett, and hopefully, Orukpe, will become our pillars. Maybe Davis or Flowers will be that strong 4 I am hoping for.

I have the utmost confidence in the Coaching staff, and I think out future will be much brighter next year, and we are not done this year, for that matter.

[ABC]

I hate to be the old guy, but who really cares about what a student writes in a student newspaper?

[BostonWu]

Probably an artsy-fartsy whose spends far more time at Starbucks than attending games.

Hey buddy at least tell us why you think we’re getting out-coached.

[SpanglerFan316]

I hate to be the old guy, but who really cares about what a student writes in a student newspaper?

Exactly!!! I don't know about you but I did some stupid things when I was an undergraduate. Let students be students; I suspect Ryan will get ribbed by other students for a long time. We're adults; let's act like it.