Shox VS Pups

[im4wsu]

I think you could do this for just about anyone and they would look like a streaky shooter.

For example, Ethan Wragge's 3-pt percentages are streaky:

Games 1-6 = 58.3%
7-12 = 20.6%
13-18 = 54.5%
19-23 = 42.4%
24-26 = 12.5%

Keep that in mind when breaking down percentages over a short period of time. Wragge is one of the more dangerous shooters in the conference but even he can look terrible over a six game span. Other than the three game stretch where Malcolm was forcing his shot I don't know if this really reveals much. Although I was originally going to use McDermott as the example here but he's some sort of machine that shoots around 50% from three even in tiny sample sizes.

Wasn't suggesting anything to the contrary. This started by me recollecting that several games ago many poisters wanted neither Malcolm nor Cotton to shoot thre-point attempts, and they have both beenon fire the last several games. That is all.

[ShockTalk]

I think you could do this for just about anyone and they would look like a streaky shooter.

For example, Ethan Wragge's 3-pt percentages are streaky:

Games 1-6 = 58.3%
7-12 = 20.6%
13-18 = 54.5%
19-23 = 42.4%
24-26 = 12.5%

Keep that in mind when breaking down percentages over a short period of time. Wragge is one of the more dangerous shooters in the conference but even he can look terrible over a six game span. Other than the three game stretch where Malcolm was forcing his shot I don't know if this really reveals much. Although I was originally going to use McDermott as the example here but he's some sort of machine that shoots around 50% from three even in tiny sample sizes.

First, you are comparing a PG with a player who is sent into a game to shoot 3s. Apples and oranges.

In Mal's 2 years at Oregon, the most 3s he took in a game was 5 or 6 and he did it only 4 times. Mal putting up 29 3s in four straight games was totally out of character for him and it didn't work. On the other hand, when he's more picky about his shot, he shoots great. The best he's done in his 3 years of D-I ball.

Wragge is a totally different player. He's taken 148 shots this year, 139 have been 3s. That's his job. And yes, he's very streaky being pretty much on fire or stone cold. 12 games: 45-73, .616. 14 games: 15-66, .227. The number of shots he takes has nothing to do with it. He does what he does all the time.

You also made an example of SoW. How he couldn't be used in your exercise because he's so consistant. So, with different types of players, one may be able to draw some sort of conclusion about their shooting.

What caught my eye on @im4wsu:'s diagram wasn't the shooting % during the different series of games, it was the large number of shots taken in only one series. A series which Mal also happened to have his worst %. I looked at this as a correlation.

[Shockeriffic]

First, you are comparing a PG with a player who is sent into a game to shoot 3s. Apples and oranges.

In Mal's 2 years at Oregon, the most 3s he took in a game was 5 or 6 and he did it only 4 times. Mal putting up 29 3s in four straight games was totally out of character for him and it didn't work. On the other hand, when he's more picky about his shot, he shoots great. The best he's done in his 3 years of D-I ball.

Wragge is a totally different player. He's taken 148 shots this year, 139 have been 3s. That's his job. And yes, he's very streaky being pretty much on fire or stone cold. 12 games: 45-73, .616. 14 games: 15-66, .227. The number of shots he takes has nothing to do with it. He does what he does all the time.

You also made an example of SoW. How he couldn't be used in your exercise because he's so consistant. So, with different types of players, one may be able to draw some sort of conclusion about their shooting.

What caught my eye on @im4wsu:'s diagram wasn't the shooting % during the different series of games, it was the large number of shots taken in only one series. A series which Mal also happened to have his worst %. I looked at this as a correlation.

The point of my original post was to point out that there is going to be some level of variance in looking at any six game sample of three point shooting percentages. Doesn't matter if it's a three point specialist or a point guard. I agree with you about there being a reason for the dip in Malcolm's percentage when he took 7.25 threes per game. That's too many for him and most of those were outside the flow of the offense. My hope is that when someone looks at the diagram they don't try to look for reasons like the strength of the opposing defense to try to explain it. That's normal for everyone. I'm amazed that McDermott has been able to be so consistent over the entire year but if you compare his best half games with his worst half then he'll look streaky too. McDermott bad 13 games (14-55 = 25.4%). McDermott good 13 games (42-61 = 68.9%). Similar to the on fire or stone cold Wragge except there are very few extended games where he shoots poorly. I think that I'm trying to make the same point as @im4wsu:. Just because Cle' has shot poorly the last 9 games doesn't mean there's necessarily anything to fix. If Wiggins slump continues for another game or two then don't panic. Both guys will start making shots again just like Armstead and Cotton have.