Start Fred NOW!!!!!!

[SB Shock]

It is Fred time!

[proshox]

You're a one-trick pony, eh?

Does Armstead do anything wrong in your eyes?

Of course, but I measure players in total impact. Unlike some of the those on this thread

I couldn't agree more with Cold....

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Being the leading minute grabber isn't a defense. In fact, that just proves he's logging too many minutes out there when other options are available.

No, what it proves is that he is doing EXACTLY what HCGM wants him to do in practice.. thus he is starting. The fact that he has started every game this year validates my point, but I will continue...

Again, he had a few good games...

No, he had by my count 11 very good games. He had the kind of games that led us to a win. The rest are average games - several of those during blowout wins where he didn't play much in the second half.

Again, he had a few good games, but he's canceled those out with several bad games...

Cancelled out? Wtf...

So let me get this straight; when Mal has a bad game, it cancels out the dozen or so games he helped us win? The truly bad games Mal has had this year could be counted on one hand.

including several bad decisions that ultimately led us to having zero shots at wins in the final minute of games.

You only notice the bad decisions at the end of the game because they are at the end of the game. Baskets made at the end of the game score no differently than baskets made at the beginning of the game. Several of these games lately should never have come down to a basket at the end of the game. The reason we have lost these last 3 games is on the team equally.

You conveniently just pointed out the positives and left out all the negatives. You could do that with anybody and make them look like a god.

I didn't conveniently leave anything out. I pasted the games where he played like a star and greatly contributed to us winning. There were another half dozen or so where he didn't have as spectacular of a line because the games were blowouts. I don't remember one line of his that was glaringly bad statistically. The SIU game where everybody decided to go off on him; he had 6pts, 6asts, 3rbds, and 4 to's in 33mins. He shot 50% from 3 (2-4), and 0% from inside the arc (0-6). Not very pretty, but a long way from a disaster.

And for the record - steals erase turnovers.. at least in my mind. Many games this year Mal has had 4 steals in a game. For example, in the Indy St game Mal had 3 to's but 2 steals. To me that gives him 1 net turnover for the game. I would assume coach thinks the same way as well.

It all comes to him being mediocre.

Now you just sound like a buffoon. We would be nowhere this year without Malcolm Armstead. You owe him an apology and you probably should sit the next couple of plays out...


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[SB Shock]

I couldn't agree more with Cold....

You want a cookie? If you are agreeing with Cold, then you have been suckered.

We Want Fred! We want Fred!

[proshox]

You want a cookie? If you are agreeing with Cold, then you have been suckered.

We Want Fred! We want Fred!

Hell yeah! I love cookies....Seriously, I want a cookie. Make it a chocolate chip from Goodcents.

[Dan]

mal may be a starter but he's a lousy finisher

[SB Shock]

Hell yeah! I love cookies....Seriously, I want a cookie. Make it a chocolate chip from Goodcents.

I was given a cookie today at work, if I had only known I could have picked you up one also. Mr. Goodcents? Now if it was from Subway!

[ShockerFever]

No, what it proves is that he is doing EXACTLY what HCGM wants him to do in practice.. thus he is starting. The fact that he has started every game this year validates my point, but I will continue...



No, he had by my count 11 very good games. He had the kind of games that led us to a win. The rest are average games - several of those during blowout wins where he didn't play much in the second half.




Cancelled out? Wtf...

So let me get this straight; when Mal has a bad game, it cancels out the dozen or so games he helped us win? The truly bad games Mal has had this year could be counted on one hand.




You only notice the bad decisions at the end of the game because they are at the end of the game. Baskets made at the end of the game score no differently than baskets made at the beginning of the game. Several of these games lately should never have come down to a basket at the end of the game. The reason we have lost these last 3 games is on the team equally.




I didn't conveniently leave anything out. I pasted the games where he played like a star and greatly contributed to us winning. There were another half dozen or so where he didn't have as spectacular of a line because the games were blowouts. I don't remember one line of his that was glaringly bad statistically. The SIU game where everybody decided to go off on him; he had 6pts, 6asts, 3rbds, and 4 to's in 33mins. He shot 50% from 3 (2-4), and 0% from inside the arc (0-6). Not very pretty, but a long way from a disaster.

And for the record - steals erase turnovers.. at least in my mind. Many games this year Mal has had 4 steals in a game. For example, in the Indy St game Mal had 3 to's but 2 steals. To me that gives him 1 net turnover for the game. I would assume coach thinks the same way as well.




Now you just sound like a buffoon. We would be nowhere this year without Malcolm Armstead. You owe him an apology and you probably should sit the next couple of plays out...


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There aren't many options at the point, so obviously MA is gonna get a lot of minutes. His role should be reduced though if he's gonna throw up wild shots and throw balls away in a multitude of ways. He should be a pass first player, not a shoot first player, which he is.

You can think MA is a stud all you want, but studs don't close games out the way he does. Fact of the matter, a senior point guard who pisses down their legs at nearly every opportunity, especially lately, is not a stud. Sorry. Mediocre at best.

[ShockerFever]

mal may be a starter but he's a lousy finisher

Bingo. But he gets all the minutes so he gets a pass.

[proshox]

I was given a cookie today at work, if I had only known I could have picked you up one also. Mr. Goodcents? Now if it was from Subway!

Subway's are freaking awesome too.

Maybe Fred is akin to a subway cookie and Malcom is akin to a goodcent's cookie. .

[proshox]

There aren't many options at the point, so obviously MA is gonna get a lot of minutes. His role should be reduced though if he's gonna throw up wild shots and throw balls away in a multitude of ways. He should be a pass first player, not a shoot first player, which he is.

You can think MA is a stud all you want, but studs don't close games out the way he does. Fact of the matter, a senior point guard who pisses down their legs at nearly every opportunity, especially lately, is not a stud. Sorry. Mediocre at best.

How many point guards are great when the two and tree spots aren't guarded?

Since MoState Cotton hasn't had a defender within three steps and Williams hasn't attracted much attention either.

[Shockeriffic]

I don't get the vitriol being directed at one player for the play over the last three games. NOBODY brought their A-game against SIU. Wiggins gave up more than he scored. White was a turnstile on defense. The bigs only managed 4 offensive rebounds against the 3rd shortest team in the country. Armstead turned it over too much and at critical times at the end of the game. EVERYONE needs to be better on Saturday. Can we please stop directing all the anger at one player?

[ShockerFever]

How many point guards are great when the two and tree spots aren't guarded?

Since MoState Cotton hasn't had a defender within three steps and Williams hasn't attracted much attention either.

Williams and Cotton don't cause Armstead to dribble balls of his feet. They also don't tell Armstead to chuck 3's on command. Maybe he should look inside more or drive and dish.

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I don't get the vitriol being directed at one player for the play over the last three games. NOBODY brought their A-game against SIU. Wiggins gave up more than he scored. White was a turnstile on defense. The bigs only managed 4 offensive rebounds against the 3rd shortest team in the country. Armstead turned it over too much and at critical times at the end of the game. EVERYONE needs to be better on Saturday. Can we please stop directing all the anger at one player?

What's really weird is some that are attacking Mal turn right around and give White a pass. When White goes to sleep at night he dreams of playing like Mal.


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[ShockerFever]

I don't get the vitriol being directed at one player for the play over the last three games. NOBODY brought their A-game against SIU. Wiggins gave up more than he scored. White was a turnstile on defense. The bigs only managed 4 offensive rebounds against the 3rd shortest team in the country. Armstead turned it over too much and at critical times at the end of the game. EVERYONE needs to be better on Saturday. Can we please stop directing all the anger at one player?

It's not just the SIU game. It's been a build up of several games, most of them continuous, a few of them recently in losses. No, it's not just 1 player. That is a fact. There is plenty of blame to go around in this slump. However, Armstead has shown signs of this before the slump and even more so after. An idea was brought up to plug in a little more FVV. It might be a a better play.

Armstead has helped us some and have hurt us some, notably in key situations when you want your senior point guard playing their BEST. That affects the ENTIRE team.