#15 Wichita State vs. Indiana State GAME THREAD

[Shockeriffic]

I would love to see us switch on most(if not all) screens. I don't care if Orukpe gets switched onto their point guard. I'd rather take my chances with that than watch their guards get continuous open looks from 8 feet.

This team should be able to pull that off since we have players like Cotton, Williams and Early that can guard multiple positions effectively. We were switching screens for a while in the second half but I think it was Williams and Early messed it up. Both went after the ball handler and left the screener wide open.

[Kung Wu]

That moment you realize ...

[shoxfan83]

That's understandable. I was referring more to the lack of single game ticket sales as row 34 was empty for the most part. To the best of my knowledge there weren't really any promotions for this game like there have been in the past for weeknight games.

Tuesday night is a high school basketball night, I would guess that would have an effect on the walk-up crowd.

[shockmonster]

How many wake up calls do we need? This is the third one this season.

Is it too much to ask to go undefeated? :)

[shockmonster]

I understand your point, but Ogirri had zero ability to dribble penetrate. I would not put Nick on the zero meter in that regard.

I agree that Nick can drive and as long as he can get to the rim without the defense making him change direction, he can slam it.

[DPruett2333]

I would love to see us switch on most(if not all) screens. I don't care if Orukpe gets switched onto their point guard. I'd rather take my chances with that than watch their guards get continuous open looks from 8 feet.

[ShockerFever]

insu was so well prepared + motivated, with nothing to lose. 'shockers may as well get used to it.

uni will probably bring that same formula this saturday. and at ilsu and at siu and at cu etc., will bring their best, too.

We get everybody's best shots. No question it's easier to sneak up on people like Indiana State does and get em when they're not expected, when they're the heavy underdog. We are not in that position anymore and haven't been for a while (like several years). Champions/good teams WANT to be hunted. They should embrace the fact that teams always want to get up for them for how good a program they have and how many wins they rack up. The Shocks, in return, need to pick up that energy, steal it from their opponent, and shove it down their throats.

[ShockerFever]

When are we gong to learn to defend against the dribble drive. Too often an opponent will get past the first guy and then have a clear path to the baskiet. We stood around and just passed back and forth around the arc last night. Half the time, Van Vleet acts like he doesn't know what to do. Armstead's shooting was terrible last night, usually we can count on him scoring more. This better be a wake-up for the team, that they can NOT take any team for granted. They played the first half uninspired.

I agree with this. When's the last time we've taken a charge in the paint? Seems like it's been forever. Maybe it's because the refs never call charges for us, but it seems like we do a lot more watching opponents drive to the rim and try to swat stuff than standing in legal guarding position and trying to draw a charge. That dribble drive stuff has been a problem of a lot of Marshall-coached teams. You got to get in there and stop that crap. Switch to a zone for a while by all means. DO SOMETHING.

[SHOXAAC]

How many wake up calls do we need? This is the third one this season.

Wake up calls are more urgent when you lose to an inferior team in your back yard.

[1979Shocker]

I hope it was a wake up call to our players and coaches. Be prepared + motivated and play like there is nothing to lose. Lets hope teams have to get used to that.

How many wake up calls do we need? This is the third one this season.

[1979Shocker]

We took a lot of bad shots.

We also took a lot of good shots that just didn't go in.

[Ricardo del Rio]

I really like Nick and I think that sometimes Armstead is very good and sometimes he becomes enamored with himself and shoots too much. I do think that Nick is a stand and jump shooter. If you make him put the ball on the floor, he isn't nearly as good. He's very much like Ogirri in that way and Ogirri could be completely taken out of his offense if you made him put the ball on the floor and drive. When Nick is moving off of a pick or has to put the ball on the floor, he isn't as good. He makes almost all of his shots by jump shooting long range or driving the ball all of the way to the basket and dunking. He has great games shooting the 3 ball and then he disappears the next if the defense puts pressure on him. He needs to expand his game.

I understand your point, but Ogirri had zero ability to dribble penetrate. I would not put Nick on the zero meter in that regard.

[SHOXAAC]

I really like Nick and I think that sometimes Armstead is very good and sometimes he becomes enamored with himself and shoots too much. I do think that Nick is a stand and jump shooter. If you make him put the ball on the floor, he isn't nearly as good. He's very much like Ogirri in that way and Ogirri could be completely taken out of his offense if you made him put the ball on the floor and drive. When Nick is moving off of a pick or has to put the ball on the floor, he isn't as good. He makes almost all of his shots by jump shooting long range or driving the ball all of the way to the basket and dunking. He has great games shooting the 3 ball and then he disappears the next if the defense puts pressure on him. He needs to expand his game.

Exactly like Kyles.

[I_Vector_Wu]

Not much to add to what already has been covered. The standing and dribbling thing against the zone puzzles me. Maybe we are trying hypnosis as a new offensive weapon, the thought crossed my mind. I thought it was telling when during a timeout, the GS 1000 point question came up. They said he crossed that threshold against ISUb with a 29 point game. I realized how sorely we could have used some of that inside presence and how do get a little of that back. Time to pull out game films from the last couple of years on how we were able to move the ball around quickly and finding an open look, dribble drive or entry pass down low. The ball movement back then was a thing of beauty when we had it going. Final thought, I felt bad for the Womens Volleyball team and the unfurling of the Sweet 16 banner. It just came at a bad time. We were fighting trying to get back into the game (early 2nd half), all amped up, frustrated, PO'd, and then we take time to honor their accomplishment, emotional extremes. I apologize for not giving you the full respect you ladies deserved ( I understand when they planned this presentation it was impossible to know what the mood would be like). Reaper, what is my penance?

[shockmonster]

I get to the arena about the same time. I like the shoot around and I really enjoy Wiggins. I remember his streak, but I was not counting shots. I just knew he was shooting lights out. He does that at most every shoot around.

Many are not as enthusiastic as I am about Nick, but I am here to tell you that he is a scoring machine. Get him the ball in a little bit of space.

An aside: I just hate it, when Malcomb is throwing up contested 3 balls, early in the clock and out of rythm. Some of his corner 3 balls last night stood zero chance of going in.

I really like Nick and I think that sometimes Armstead is very good and sometimes he becomes enamored with himself and shoots too much. I do think that Nick is a stand and jump shooter. If you make him put the ball on the floor, he isn't nearly as good. He's very much like Ogirri in that way and Ogirri could be completely taken out of his offense if you made him put the ball on the floor and drive. When Nick is moving off of a pick or has to put the ball on the floor, he isn't as good. He makes almost all of his shots by jump shooting long range or driving the ball all of the way to the basket and dunking. He has great games shooting the 3 ball and then he disappears the next if the defense puts pressure on him. He needs to expand his game.