Battle of the referees

[MTXEShox]

Anyone else observe the two referees in the Ill. St. game having a very animated discussion during a time out? A lot of gesturing, talking over one another ect. Very animated!

[Slalomshocker]

I saw that as well. Clearly demonstrated the crew was not on the same page, not that we needed any confirmation of that. My take was it was over something in the lane and a disagreement about what should and should not be called at that particular point. That and I did notice a couple of calls that were made by one official that were clearly not in his zone. Unfortunately I was not close enough to the court to catch any of the conversation, but I don't believe the one official took the "coaching" very well.

[MTXEShox]

You are right on about the "lesson" being given by the grey haired ref. That same ref had what looked to be a discussion about the game, or the ref in question, with Marshall during a free shot at the other end of the ct. I would like it if Shockref would give us some insight on this as this is a first, for me anyway, to see that much "chirping" during a game between two officials.

[rrshock]

Gotta love it when the referees can't agree with one another and get along.

[WuDrWu]

You are right on about the "lesson" being given by the grey haired ref. That same ref had what looked to be a discussion about the game, or the ref in question, with Marshall during a free shot at the other end of the ct. I would like it if Shockref would give us some insight on this as this is a first, for me anyway, to see that much "chirping" during a game between two officials.

I remember that as well, and while I may be off on the timeline, I think it all started when one of them went fishing.

[SubGod22]

Which two were involved. I didn't catch anything on ESPN and would be curious. I know when I've been on crews or heard stories from others, you don't do that on the court. You have your "discussion" at halftime or after the game.

I will say that the game last night was not the best officiated performance I've seen. I am definitely no fan of Steed and last night didn't help his case.

[RoyalShock]

Who was the white-haired ref that, IMO, made several questionable calls in a row?

Is he the one who made that awful call against Jake when breaking up the alley-oop?

[wusphlash]

They seemed a little disjointed, as was the game. I believe they had one discussion regarding whether Nick was in the act of shooting, which obviously he was. I think there was another after Steed tried to explain to Gregg the horrible foul call on Jake down at the north end. The officials had some animated discussion right after that.

[newshock1234]

He prolly told him if he kept making piss poor calls like that then you are gonna get us boo'ed out of this arena lol

[bighouse]

The best ref moment of the game was when the kid doing the "where's Wu" promo went barreling into the ref....I was waiting for him to call a charge on the kid, but the ref was clearly not set, and I think in the restricted circle!

[Shoxfan11]

Who was the white-haired ref that, IMO, made several questionable calls in a row?

Is he the one who made that awful call against Jake when breaking up the alley-oop?

I'd like to know this as well. He also made a call late in the game on Jake where someone was backing into Jake and he said Jake wasn't straight up. From what I could see, Jake was perfectly straight up even though a guy's shoulder was going right into his chest.

[WuDrWu]

Did I dream this, or did Zelton start up chirping with section 124 late in the game?

[RoyalShock]

I'd like to know this as well. He also made a call late in the game on Jake where someone was backing into Jake and he said Jake wasn't straight up. From what I could see, Jake was perfectly straight up even though a guy's shoulder was going right into his chest.

On the replay I saw Jake's left arm come down on the shooter's arm. It was quick - and it could have been a reflex from getting shouldered in the chest - but I think that's what the ref saw.

[moshock]

On the replay I saw Jake's left arm come down on the shooter's arm. It was quick - and it could have been a reflex from getting shouldered in the chest - but I think that's what the ref saw.

I haven't watched the re run but at the time - I thought that Jake initially deflected the ball - then had incidental contact with the Il St player. I'm not sure how that should be called if the ball never reached the player. Then again - I might have been staring at Sub's avatar and distracted from actually watching the play

[newshock1234]

Did I dream this, or did Zelton start up chirping with section 124 late in the game?

thought I saw the same thing, I think it was the under 8:00 time out