The Valley So Far

[shoxlax]

Rate the teams 1-10 on their play so far.

1. Creighton
2. WSU
3. Illinois State
4. UNI
5. Drake
6. Indiana State
7. Bradley
8. SIU
9. Evansville
10. MSU

Thoughts?

[RoyalShock]

I think you're right on the money. That would be my ranking, as well.

[LuskingforGuttin]

There should be a way to rank us lower than 10th place. We'll be lucky to win more than three Valley games. Oh well at least I can live vicariously through your school's successes. Cheers and Mahalo!

[kcshocker11]

I would switch one and two, but I'm biased

[HarpBros]

It's hard to argue with Creighton as number 1 while they have the Offence right now... once our younger players catch yup to the speed of DI ball our offence with be more reliable and give us the balance team and bench to really take us far.

[SubGod22]

1 - Wichita
2 - Creighton
3 - ISU
4 - UNI
5 - Drake
6 - Bradley
7 - ISUb
8 - SIU
9 - Evansville
0 - SWOMO

[tropicalshox]

It's hard with Creighton as number while they have the Offence right now... once our younger players catch yup to the speed of DI ball our offence with be more reliable and give us the balance team and bench to really take us far.

We are currently tied for12th in the nation in points per possession with 1.13 points per possession. That's compared to Creighton's 1.17 points per possesion which is good for a tie for second. Not much of a difference there.
There certainly is a difference in defense. WSU ranks 17th in the nation by only giving up .92 points per possession. Creighton is at #222 with 1.03 points per possession. This info comes from StatSheet.com.

[Anthroshock]

We are currently tied for12th in the nation in points per possession with 1.13 points per possession. That's compared to Creighton's 1.17 points per possesion which is good for a tie for second. Not much of a difference there.
There certainly is a difference in defense. WSU ranks 17th in the nation by only giving up .92 points per possession. Creighton is at #222 with 1.03 points per possession. This info comes from StatSheet.com.

Creighton is getting 78 possessions per game for 3rd best. Shockers with 67 per for 218th.

[The Mad Hatter]

Creighton is getting 78 possessions per game for 3rd best. Shockers with 67 per for 218th.

That is just a matter of game pace (and reflective of the lack of defense on CU's part leading to more possessions in their games), which is precisely why points per possession is a better comparison than raw scoring. Since teams just alternate possessions in basketball, there is no thing as "best" in number of possessions because having more possessions per game means opponents also have more possessions per game. What you do with those possessions on both offense and defense are what count.

[C0|dB|00ded]

1 - Wichita
2 - Creighton
3 - ISU
4 - UNI
5 - Drake
6 - Bradley
7 - ISUb
8 - ISU
9 - Evansville
0 - SWOMO

We are currently tied for12th in the nation in points per possession with 1.13 points per possession. That's compared to Creighton's 1.17 points per possesion which is good for a tie for second. Not much of a difference there.
There certainly is a difference in defense. WSU ranks 17th in the nation by only giving up .92 points per possession. Creighton is at #222 with 1.03 points per possession. This info comes from StatSheet.com.

Exactly.

I'm totally expecting BJ to get hammered in January @ Koch Arena. I really think we are going to shake them up bad. I predict a lot of eyes will be opened on that evening and I will once again be making the plea to increase HCGM's salary to 2M.


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[n8]

I'm totally expecting BJ to get hammered in January @ Koch Arena. I really think we are going to shake them up bad. I predict a lot of eyes will be opened on that evening and I will once again be making the plea to increase HCGM's salary to 2M.

No offense to Coach Marshall, but don't you think he needs to win some NCAA tournament games before we throw another half million on the fire?

[molly jabali]

I also would switch one and two...WSU's two good road wins trumps Creighton's lackluster loss to an admittedly improved Boise team...

[ShockerEngr]

We are currently tied for12th in the nation in points per possession with 1.13 points per possession. That's compared to Creighton's 1.17 points per possesion which is good for a tie for second. Not much of a difference there.
There certainly is a difference in defense. WSU ranks 17th in the nation by only giving up .92 points per possession. Creighton is at #222 with 1.03 points per possession. This info comes from StatSheet.com.

I think you grabbed last years numbers. Looking at statsheet for 2012-2013 Creighton is 1.21(#5) / .93(#106) and WSU is 1.08 (#61) / .89 (#40) for offense / defense

[calfan]

I like WSU at one as well.

The only other team I wonder about is Bradley being better than six or seven.
They are 5-2 with an 8 point loss to number 3 Michigan.

[shoxlax]

I like WSU at one as well.

The only other team I wonder about is Bradley being better than six or seven.
They are 5-2 with an 8 point loss to number 3 Michigan.

I thought about that as well. But who do you leapfrog?