Athletic Dorms

[SpanglerFan316]

WSU's standards in certain majors are very high. I can't say that is true in every major (I've heard - without being able to verify this information - that 90% of the people in "Engineering Physics" at WSU got As and this is the kind of grade distribution I expect from Butler CC, not WSU).

[C0|dB|00ded]

I can't say that is true in every major (I've heard - without being able to verify this information - that 90% of the people in "Engineering Physics" at WSU got As and this is the kind of grade distribution I expect from Butler CC, not WSU).

Whoever told you that is smoking crack.

Graduating with a 3.0-3.25 in any of the major engineering disciplines (electrical, mechanical, aerospace) is a huge accomplishment. Engineering students that graduate in the 3.5+ range would be in the 98 percentile.

I never heard of that kind of grade distribution in any WSU course I took. Perhaps Golf?


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[CBB_Fan]

WSU's standards in certain majors are very high. I can't say that is true in every major (I've heard - without being able to verify this information - that 90% of the people in "Engineering Physics" at WSU got As and this is the kind of grade distribution I expect from Butler CC, not WSU).

From what I've heard, the median grade in the last Engineering Physics class was a 76%. Above average, but not crazy high.

I had a varying degree of difficulty in the classes I took. Elementary Differential Equations, for example, usually has a 10-20% curve at the end of the semester, and even with that only two students in the class before mine got an A. The material was hard enough that the teacher fully expected each and every student to be below an A before the end of the class simply because it was so easy to lose points given the difficulty of the material.

Anyway, athletic dorms. When we get rid of the golf course, they would be nice to have. Enough space for 1000 students (500 total athletes + 500 regular students), call it something like the Wichita State "Center of Excellence" Dorms. Students would be allowed to room in those dorms if they were either an athlete or a student with a 3.75 GPA or better. These dorms would have to have a very attractive exterior, preferably in black and gold colors, and the first room would be a Shocker athletic showcase.

On the right, you'd see a history of Shocker basketball. Included would be Xavier McDaniel's jersey, photos of old teams, and a very prominent "National Champions" banner showcasing the NIT season. At the end of the presentation (which would be chronological), you'd have a very noticeable empty space and maybe a blank portrait. You get the gist. Recruiting items.

On the left, baseball stuff. Highlight baseballs winningest coach, the National Championships, etc. Also include stuff from other sports, but the goal is to make the basketball and baseball the most prominent.

The facilities inside should all be very prominently in the school's colors. Furthermore, they should be something that will make a recruit go "Wow." Basics for the basketball section (Floor 1, right past the entry room) would be extra large beds for our future stars along with raised counters in the restrooms. Like the rest of the campus, these dorms would have internet, but also included would be lounge sections with large TVs and maybe rooms for recruits to watch film. One recruit to a room, but they would still share restrooms.

This sort of thing would be a huge recruiting tool.

[SpanglerFan316]

Whoever told you that is smoking crack.

Graduating with a 3.0-3.25 in any of the major engineering disciplines (electrical, mechanical, aerospace) is a huge accomplishment. Engineering students that graduate in the 3.5+ range would be in the 98 percentile.

I never heard of that kind of grade distribution in any WSU course I took. Perhaps Golf?


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1. I was talking about one specific class of (about) 40 people. I'm not talking about a program or major.
2. I have not attempted to verify the validity of the claim; I have no means of verifying the claim. I don't recall where I heard the information. I'm not certain about the number of students or the exact class (i.e. 1 or 2).
3. High grades don't necessarily imply a poor education; it might happen that a great instructor has only highly superior students in one class. There are many good students at WSU.

The more important information, to me, is that in many fields WSU standards are higher than in better known institutions; I only added the other information to demonstrate "objectivity". I know WSU isn't perfect but it is very good.

Some students transfer in from KU, CCs, etc. and sometimes are not well prepared for WSU. (This is probably true everywhere?)

[SpanglerFan316]

From what I've heard, the median grade in the last Engineering Physics class was a 76%. Above average, but not crazy high.

You could be right; I don't know the specific class, semester, etc. and I don't know any class averages. I didn't consider the information to be extremely important because one can't look solely at the grade distribution and draw any conclusions.

ADDED: You obviously know much more about a specific class than do I. Do you know if the class you mentioned was graded on a "90% A, 80% B, 70% C, 60% D" basis?

[SpanglerFan316]

Anyway, athletic dorms. When we get rid of the golf course, they would be nice to have. Enough space for 1000 students (500 total athletes + 500 regular students), call it something like the Wichita State "Center of Excellence" Dorms. Students would be allowed to room in those dorms if they were either an athlete or a student with a 3.75 GPA or better. These dorms would have to have a very attractive exterior, preferably in black and gold colors, and the first room would be a Shocker athletic showcase.

I like your idea and I believe President Bardo wants to add dorms. Do you have any idea of revenues and expenses?

[SpanglerFan316]

I never heard of that kind of grade distribution in any WSU course I took. Perhaps Golf?

Now I know why the 2014 NCAA championship in Golf will be sponsored by WSU. :tongue-new:

[C0|dB|00ded]

1. I was talking about one specific class of (about) 40 people. I'm not talking about a program or major.

Oh, well yeah, there's always a fluff course stuck here and there in every program. My brother told me about a class called engineering economics or something like that.. a total pud.

Some students transfer in from KU, CCs, etc. and sometimes are not well prepared for WSU. (This is probably true everywhere?)

The point is, these were business majors from other Kansas state schools, and the finance class they took at WSU shocked them a bit and they were struggling. We were discussing their complaints and they both agreed that the classes they had already taken at their respective home schools were not nearly as rigorous and hadn't prepared them for the class they were "qualified" to take at WSU.


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[SpanglerFan316]

I've heard about courses called "engineering ethics" and "engineering graphics". I don't know anything about their grade distributions but I get the impression from talking with people that they are not that popular.

[Kung Wu]

EO is a mathematics major which is arguably the most difficult undergraduate degree to obtain. Upper level mathematics courses are all theory and very dry. At least with engineering or physics you have interesting applications.

...

At one point in the semester during one of my economics courses, the professor chose to recognize the top student in his class. It was CB. But CB was not alone, he shared the top spot with an African gentleman. I talked briefly with the dude after class and he was all business.

Pleeease. You don't know your asymptotes from a hole in your graph.

:)

[SpanglerFan316]

I refrain from offering "good" math, physics, biology, etc. jokes because my "good" might be your "BAD"!! :)

[Ricardo del Rio]

Regular or engineering Physics 2 (I know he was an engineering student at one point)? I thought that was a pretty fun class, but it can be difficult to remember the differences between capacitance, voltage, amperage, potential, etc. I think I got an A in that class, but it was my hard class that semester.

V=IR

[Dave Stalwart]

Has EO been mentioned in this thread yet? Yes? Good. Just checking to make sure

[SpanglerFan316]

Ask Gustav Kirchhoff.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Cold,

You know I love you, but me thinketh thee high jacked my lovely thread.

RDR