WICHITA STATE (7-1) at MISSOURI (6-2) Game Thread

[Husker4Shockers]

An observation and a question:

1) As one of the dads used to holler during my son's high school games: "Too much damn dribbling!"
2) Why do you have the shortest guy on the team throwing the ball in when he can't seem to get it over whoever is guarding the in-bounds?

[RoyalShock]

Can anyone confirm if the refs for our game jumped on a plane right after, heading for Green Bay?

I mean, the similarities are striking.

Phantom flagrant - questionable personal foul on the Mahomes run late
Swallowing the whistle on behalf of Mizzou's defense - Ignoring the mugging of MVS late

[Shocktoberfest]

And what a postseason he had!

I was just thinking about that the other day. Ron came back really late. Like just in time for post-season. That magical run to Atlanta doesn't happen without him. Or any of the other guys as well, obviously. But he had already had a red-shirt season, correct? I don't think he could have gotten another year if he had sat out the rest of the season unless there was a special exception for a medical redshirt as well. What was his injury that year? Was it foot related?

[ShockBand]

The rules have changed since Stallworth played. Now if a player plays any part of a season it counts as the whole season.

I think Baker fell into that category. He sat until the MVC tourney, which was second semester, but that second semester only year for him was his entire Fr season.

And what a postseason he had!

[Aargh]

Some of the history aficionados might know but didn’t Stallworth only play 1/2 a semester his last year and might have cost us a serious opportunity at a National Championship when not available during the second half of the season?
If Cortes is cleared to play the 2nd half of the season then wont he also be required to end his career at the end of the fall semester in a few years?
Isn’t it better to have him eligible to end his career in March rather than December ?

The rules have changed since Stallworth played. Now if a player plays any part of a season it counts as the whole season.

I think Baker fell into that category. He sat until the MVC tourney, which was second semester, but that second semester only year for him was his entire Fr season.

[shocks02]

That Mizzou team was as close to kryptonite for our current roster makeup as you can get. Experienced club that can apply extreme ball pressure with solid shot blockers patrolling the paint. Would love to play them again in a month, I would like our chances. Biggest take away was our guys didn't back down after a horrid start and still seem to be trending in the right direction. Overall it was a fun trip out to Columbia.

Also, I need to see a replay of the flagrant foul because it looked to me that Grill just tried to dunk it too hard. Then on the double tech, I wasn't sure what happened but when they announced it on the PA I figured it was going to be on Quincy Acy/ MU head coach. They had a nice long stare down near half court. Acy brought some fire to the bench that some might think Mills is missing lol.

Your description of Mizzou matches Memphis fairly well also. If we want to generate the program rebuilding and ticket-selling momentum we all want to see, we probably need to either A) beat one of K-State/KU and/or B) challenge for 2nd or 3rd in the conference with a win or two against FAU/Memphis. Not saying that can't or won't happen, but most of the success of this season hinges on being able to beat a veteran, athletic team, that knows how to create turnovers. Hope they can figure it out. IB never could the last two seasons.

[Veritas]

Tough sports day yesterday in the Bluz household. Tough to make those threes on tired legs at the end of the game. I think our guys can handle the physicality, but that was just too much for only seven guys.

I’m hopeful Cortes gets cleared to play this next semester if for no other reason than we need all hands on deck (and most definitely a PG). But I’m sensing that many on this board are setting us (themselves) up for disappointment. I’m sure he’s going to have up and down games once he gets on the court and Shockernet is going to have a field day with that!

Some of the history aficionados might know but didn’t Stallworth only play 1/2 a semester his last year and might have cost us a serious opportunity at a National Championship when not available during the second half of the season?
If Cortes is cleared to play the 2nd half of the season then wont he also be required to end his career at the end of the fall semester in a few years?
Isn’t it better to have him eligible to end his career in March rather than December ?

[forevershockerfan]

If I would known our situation what I see now preseason, and you told me that we would be 7-2 now, would I be Shocked and Happy. YES,!!! AND YES!!!

[Stickboy46]

Especially with the luxury of replay. No way that was flagrant. It's not our fault Grill sucks at dunking. They should have given the flagrant to the rim. That really hurt us badly.

I think they only made 1 FT and then didn't make anything with the possession ..so while it was a horrible flagrant call, It really didn't hurt us that much. It was a foul, and they were going to shoot 2 either way.

[Seagull]

I’ve always wondered how far in advance the coaches know who will be reffing the game. It seems to have a huge impact on the success of the game plan.

[Rize Ballz]

Still have no idea why Grill was booted at Iowa State before the season even ended. Must’ve been something non negotiable.

[Shocktoberfest]

Grill rammed that dunk attempt right into the side of the rim. It was mostly physics that tossed him to the floor like a rag doll. A foul, yes, there was some contact. Flagrant? Not in my opinion.

Especially with the luxury of replay. No way that was flagrant. It's not our fault Grill got rejected by the goal. They should have given the flagrant to the rim. That really hurt us badly.

[ShockBand]

That Mizzou team was as close to kryptonite for our current roster makeup as you can get. Experienced club that can apply extreme ball pressure with solid shot blockers patrolling the paint. Would love to play them again in a month, I would like our chances. Biggest take away was our guys didn't back down after a horrid start and still seem to be trending in the right direction. Overall it was a fun trip out to Columbia.

Also, I need to see a replay of the flagrant foul because it looked to me that Grill just tried to dunk it too hard. Then on the double tech, I wasn't sure what happened but when they announced it on the PA I figured it was going to be on Quincy Acy/ MU head coach. They had a nice long stare down near half court. Acy brought some fire to the bench that some might think Mills is missing lol.

Grill rammed that dunk attempt right into the side of the rim. It was mostly physics that tossed him to the floor like a rag doll. A foul, yes, there was some contact. Flagrant? Not in my opinion.

[WINGdingBALLfling]

That Mizzou team was as close to kryptonite for our current roster makeup as you can get. Experienced club that can apply extreme ball pressure with solid shot blockers patrolling the paint. Would love to play them again in a month, I would like our chances. Biggest take away was our guys didn't back down after a horrid start and still seem to be trending in the right direction. Overall it was a fun trip out to Columbia.

Also, I need to see a replay of the flagrant foul because it looked to me that Grill just tried to dunk it too hard. Then on the double tech, I wasn't sure what happened but when they announced it on the PA I figured it was going to be on Quincy Acy/ MU head coach. They had a nice long stare down near half court. Acy brought some fire to the bench that some might think Mills is missing lol.

[ABC]

I went to the game with my wife and another couple from Topeka who are WSU graduates.

I don't have a lot to add to the game discussion, other than Beverley had one of the oddest statistical games that I've seen in quite a while. And he kept getting his pocket picked and made bad passes; I kept thinking that he really needs to stop dribbling. And then in the 2nd half he had quite a few nifty drives to the hole.

The arena was nice. Reminded me of IBA - about the same capacity. It was 60% full? Student sections was about the same. There were lots of Shocker fans, but with the team colors essentially the same, it was hard to tell. I can't say it was a great home-court advantage. It was eerily quiet unless Missouri did something positive. I think the only time the crowd came alive PRIOR to a good play was when WSU had the ball, down 3 and late.

MU fans were plenty friendly. We sat in front of a high-school ref who was making the same comments that have already been repeated here about the officiating.