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  • #31
    I'm not going to get into an argument on whether or not things are fair to WSU/fans on MVCFans, but here is my take:

    The creator, mods and most of the posters at MVCFans don't want a ValleyTalk 2. From a moderation standpoint, that was the priority-one from the get-go. The reputations of those who made VT what it was were not cleared. So they had a shorter leash to start. Agree or not, that the way it was decided things would be done, to accomplish priority-one. The "anti-WSU" bias has everything to do with perceptions from VT. While most MVC schools had fans there who trolled from time-to-time, there were decidedly more WSU fans. Again, that reputation didn't just go away, among the mods or participants.

    Being a mod there I can tell you that over the past year or so, the behavior of posters from other fanbases are getting as much or more moderator attention than WSU fans. The thing to remember is that the mods can't see every single post. Nor can they follow, in detail, every quibble that goes on between one or more posters. Even though objectivity is the goal, subjectivity is going to factor in. And given the long history of MVC fanboards, the perception of who started what is going to be different from person to person. It's very difficult to try and balance all that "family" history and manage things going forward. We try the best we can. There is no "anti-WSU" bias among the moderators and most, if not all, moderator action is discussed beforehand or reviewed afterward. Sometimes people just aren't going to agree or see things the same way.

    The bottom line is, if you want to discuss MVC sports on a moderated board, without things devolving too far - a line which will always be blurred - then go to MVCFans. If not, then go somewhere else.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
      go somewhere else.
      :eagerness:
      Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
      RIP Guy Always A Shocker
      Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
      ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
      Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
      Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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      • #33
        The only reason VT turned to what it did is because moderation disappeared completely. I think everyone doesn't want things going that far obviously. A balance of VT WITH moderation I think would make everyone happy. Instead, it went from one extreme to another and that's just as bad.

        I can admit that I'm not a perfect angel. But neither are the other legions of fans posting over there now without restriction. I know most moderators probably don't care for me and that's why I had a different set of standards to follow. Believe me, I tried to turn myself into a better poster. But then posters would either come at me or do the same things I was called out before but I was the one always held accountable, NEVER the other party. I've seen that with other WSU fans too, never to anybody else. That's when I had enough. If they really wanna manipulate the site to what they want it to be, then so be it. I just know there are currently plenty of other posters that posted in similar ways that I did that still have free reigns now. I guess my points must have really stung the gut.

        If people wouldnt cry all the time like little girls because one slight was said about their school or people just simply skipped over and ignored posts, then there wouldnt be many issues. It's always one predetermined poster responsible for everything, never 2 parties. Compared to other message boards of similar setups, that one certainly seems pretty "out there" when looking at everyone else's. Perhaps that's why it's just a shadow of what VT was and the poster base is just limited to a select few. It has no growth potential with the style it utilizes.
        Last edited by ShockerFever; June 13, 2012, 03:40 PM.
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        ... No really, deuces.
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        • #34
          In almost a year and a half as a Mod at CSN, never deleted a post or banned a poster. At times we have had some great discussions. Would love to get back to that.

          Great thing was that posters not affiliated with the Valley would jump in from time to time also. Was nice getting outside perspective.

          Many college boards are on that site. You should come check it out.

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          • #35
            The only problem I ever had with Valleytalk was MoValley John. He was absolutely oppressive towards the end with his constant pictures and threadjacking. It was like he was single-handedly trying to kill the site. If I was a moderator at Valleytalk, he would have been the only person I would have banned. He was the epitome of a spammer. I would PM him and ask him to please STFU in a thread I was about to create because if I didn't, he would stumble around in it and #!@% everything up.


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            • #36
              I plan on checking it out this fall, DSB. Hopefully some others swing on by as well.
              Deuces Valley.
              ... No really, deuces.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View Post
                In almost a year and a half as a Mod at CSN, never deleted a post or banned a poster. At times we have had some great discussions. Would love to get back to that.

                Great thing was that posters not affiliated with the Valley would jump in from time to time also. Was nice getting outside perspective.

                Many college boards are on that site. You should come check it out.
                Well, I went to CSN and it appears my EXACT username is already registered... I wonder what BJ fan did that?


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                • #38
                  I thought you registered before?

                  Did you try retrieve password?

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                  • #39
                    Fever is right. VT was great before all moderation went out the window and everything became complete chaos and the same things being said over and over and no discussion about anything at all. There's no reason we can't have discussions with some banter going on.

                    VT ended up going beyond banter when moderation left. MVCFans doesn't allow for any of it from one side. Even complete honesty isn't allowed even if it's done in a non attacking way. It's ridiculous really.

                    Neither the end of VT or the current MVCFans allows for any kind of open discussion with others.

                    CSN will definitely allow for that as well as some discourse with fans from outside the Valley.

                    And there's a Babe of the Day forum if you're into that sort of thing.
                    Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                    RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                    Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                    ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                    Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                    Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                      Well, I went to CSN and it appears my EXACT username is already registered... I wonder what BJ fan did that?


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                      Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View Post
                      I thought you registered before?

                      Did you try retrieve password?
                      It is registered and listed as a Wichita State fan. It appears you may have registered back in '09.
                      Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                      RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                      Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                      ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                      Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                      Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                      • #41
                        Hmmm, I tried to enter a couple of my email addresses and it says invalid. I wonder if I used a temp email address.. :( Is there any way for me to get the email address attached to that name?


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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                          Well, I went to CSN and it appears my EXACT username is already registered... I wonder what BJ fan did that?


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                          Here you go... :friendly_wink:

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                            Fever is right. VT was great before all moderation went out the window and everything became complete chaos and the same things being said over and over and no discussion about anything at all. There's no reason we can't have discussions with some banter going on.

                            VT ended up going beyond banter when moderation left. MVCFans doesn't allow for any of it from one side. Even complete honesty isn't allowed even if it's done in a non attacking way. It's ridiculous really.

                            Neither the end of VT or the current MVCFans allows for any kind of open discussion with others.

                            CSN will definitely allow for that as well as some discourse with fans from outside the Valley.

                            And there's a Babe of the Day forum if you're into that sort of thing.
                            OK to "Babe of the Day"
                            "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                              And there's a Babe of the Day forum if you're into that sort of thing.
                              That'll get me to sign up. So where's the SN Babe of the Day forum?? Can't believe we missed that boat.
                              "It's amazing to watch Ron slide into that open area, Fred will find him and it's straight cash homie."--HCGM

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
                                I'm not going to get into an argument on whether or not things are fair to WSU/fans on MVCFans, but here is my take:

                                The bottom line is, if you want to discuss MVC sports on a moderated board, without things devolving too far - a line which will always be blurred - then go to MVCFans. If not, then go somewhere else.
                                I didn't see any problem with the moderation/administration at MVCFans when I posted there. Other than the waiting period for getting your account approved, but I understand that less experienced forum admins might not be able to handle the spam-account registration that a lot of forums experience.

                                However, there's a reason so many people here all have the same perception of the forum. There's also a reason why barely anyone from here appears willing to go there. And why so many people who were not banned from the forum have no intention to go back.

                                Personally, if I want to waste my time reading constant attacks, I'll just sit on the ESPN forums. At least there they attack everyone. If I want to discuss the sports of 90% of the teams in the MVC, maybe I'll go to MVCFans.
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