Good ESPN Article about coaches staying put... includes Marshall

[SubGod22]

There's no reason to believe that this team can't be as good or better. They'll be different and less experienced but they're not short on talent and may have more

[ShockerFever]

most of what he says is the truth, so I dont know why people are getting so upset. Everyone knows the expectations are to win a title every year, but to compare to schools like Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina and UCLA would be a mockery. We are not in the same category as expectations as those schools, everyone on this board knew in the back of their mind that a Final 4 was possible, but realistically the Sweet 16 was our ceiling, with Kentucky in our in bracket. The dude did not say anything to mock WSU, he was just saying what was on his mind, and the usual haters took it as disrespect.

A KSU troll comes here to stir the pot, but I'm the hater?

Typical nub post, only you lack any credibility at all whatsoever.

[Shox21]

There's no reason to believe that this team can't be as good or better. They'll be different and less experienced but they're not short on talent and may have more

Sub, I want to believe as much (if not more) than the next person that we would be as good or better (preferably better) than last year. But we have had recruits before that we all thought had talent but that talent didn't quite materialize. This incoming class, however, has some really super kids and the talent (even to this untrained eye) just oozes out. But we do have some unknowns at this time that alter things like whether some will even show up (Teddy, Henry) and now the uncertainty with Carl. All I'm saying is that I have great hopes (and faith in our coaching staff) but am trying to keep my expectations in check.

[SubGod22]

Even with a lineup that doesn't have Hall, Hawkins or Uwadiae, I like our chances.

PG - Armstead, Williams, Cotton, FVV
SG - Williams, Wiggins, Cotton, Baker
SF - Early, Wiggins, Baker, Wessel, Green
PF - White, Lufile, Early, Green
C - Ehimen, Lufile

Yes, we're better with Hall still able to play as that would give us a very solid four bigs and allow Early to stay on the wing. But even without him, I'm confident we can do some very special things. This team is built to withstand the loss of one or two players. I don't think injury to one player would ruin the season. Post could be a little on the thin side, but I still like what we have even if we assume that the three mentioned above don't play.

[WSUwatcher]

Sub, we're veering OT from Marshall, but I note that as always you also didn't include Mitchell -- a JC All-American who started out on scholarship elsewhere (with a team that ultimately went to the round of 16!) before deciding that the grass was greener in Mom's back yard. Of course, that's also just one more tribute to the talent and depth in the backcourt, that there would be a question where such a player will be able to find minutes.

[SubGod22]

Sub, we're veering OT from Marshall, but I note that as always you also didn't include Mitchell -- a JC All-American who started out on scholarship elsewhere (with a team that ultimately went to the round of 16!) before deciding that the grass was greener in Mom's back yard. Of course, that's also just one more tribute to the talent and depth in the backcourt, that there would be a question where such a player will be able to find minutes.

I also didn't include Randal Vautravers(sp). They're both walk-ons. Armstead may or may not be a walk-on but is expected to have a big impact and play minutes. I can't say the same for Mitchell. I don't see him taking minutes from Armstead, Williams or Cotton and if FVV is going to play, Mitchell will get nothing but mop up minutes at best. Even if he can play some SG, he still has to put one of Williams, Wiggins, Cotton and Baker on the bench as well.

Until I have reason to believe he'll make an on court impact during a game, I'm leaving him with the rest of the walk-ons

[shocktown]

Gregg Marshall is a genius, and he is not leaving WSU for a long time. He is making BCS money, without the BCS expectations. Heck, the guy is a god at WSU, and has yet to win a single NCAA Tourney game in 5 years. Sorry, BCS schools won’t settle for making the tourney every 6 years, and then losing to a school from a lesser conference. Especially a conference below the MVC. BCS coaches get fired for Marshall’s performance. Marshall gets a parade. Why would he leave?



It’s crazy that Marshall even got mentioned in this article. He, after 1 NCAA win in 8 tries is actually mentioned in the same article as coaches from lesser conferences taking teams to the Final 4 and Championship Game. (Plural!) Crazy thing is, WSU actually pays him more than either of these coaches that have actually won! Hard to believe a coach that has been to the National Championship Game twice (in fewer years) actually earns less than 3G.

Don’t worry Shocker fan, 3G is not going anywhere! He has found a great place to live (with low cost of living), a salary he could expect at a school with a much bigger budget, and very little pressure from “fan expectations”. He was even willing to be quoted… 'OK, in order to have value as a college basketball coach, I've got to coach in a Final Four.' I don't feel that way at all. It's all relative."

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the retard is strong in him.

[pogo]

You can't fix stupid.

[lostshocker]

You can't fix stupid.

but you can slap it.

[shock]

but you can slap it.

[WstateU]

You can't fix stupid.

[SHOCKvalue]

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You need to update your sig dude.

[shocktown]

You need to update your sig dude.

Yes I know. I've been calling this shot going back at least to '96, post Tulsa,
on some of the old Valley boards and Shockernet boards.
Then we just blow by the E8 straight to FF! Haven't thought of a suitable replacement.

[Snapshot9]

If 3G stays long term, I expect he'll get himself a Final Four. He knows how to build a team that can do some damage. Once in the Dance, a little luck can go a long way for a talented team.

Hey Sub, remember when you said this just last year!!! 3G heard you and responded, ha ha ... It is what you do with what you got... Marshall is establishing WSU again as a basketball force, garnering respect along the way.

I don't think any Shocker fan would say a National Championship is out of sight anymore. We have a great coaching staff and support group.