Fire Boatright Billboard Discussion

[Stickboy46]

NIL was only the final straw. Far from the primary reason for ADDB needing to be let go. Many are just focusing on it because it's the most recent thing and a hot topic right now.

[Maizerunner08]

Do we really know we lost all of them due to lack of NIL deals? RCIV for sure. Tyson was gone anyway. Chauncy, Monzy, Qua and Joe probably gone with or without NIL and I don't seem them attracting much in NIL money in any case. Dexter and Mo, I don't know. Probably due to lack of NIL deals, although maybe they would have been out the door one way or the other anyway.. So 3 guys maybe lost due to lack of NIL deals. Would of lost Craig without the last minute NIL deal coming through.

Where the lack of NIL deals has hurt is in attracting strong replacements for these guys in the portal although I guess the jury is still out on how we have done on that.

You’re right, hard to say who would have stayed or left regardless. Not having an NIL might have not been the only reason, however it might have the final push for some of these guys.

[Maizerunner08]

NIL was only the final straw. Far from the primary reason for ADDB needing to be let go. Many are just focusing on it because it's the most recent thing and a hot topic right now.

Correct. There were obviously more reasons, NIL is just top of mind right now.

[Shock Top]

Some of you must be masochist.

I’d rather be water boarded than listen to those two.

[WuDrWu]

You stand proud on that soapbox Bob. It may just be a piece of one-by lumber lying in a divot filled with water, but you do you.

Educators (or thinktheyareeducators) will too often burn themselves to the ground defending other educators.

When the most innocuous discussion involving teachers happens to come up, you can literally hear Bob's A-Fib kick into high gear.

[WuTheOne]

DB was on his way out the door the moment ******* talked to Shaq. He dodged the initial bullet by paying Marshall $7.75 mill to take the hit. DB wasn't fired for lack of transparency, or NIL. He was fired for getting Marshall fired, which cut off the friends Marshall had made with the deep pockets that supported the athletic department.

Here's how that deal looked to GGG: "Hey Gregg, would you take the hit for the problems in the department? We'll pay you $7.75 million over the next several years where you don't have to do anything. You always said you wanted to retire young". THAT was the nail in DB's coffin. It just took some time, some fans pointing out what was going on, a great investigative reporter making some issues public, and some donors cutting off funding.

DB's incompetence was a convenient, albeit legitimate, excuse. Muma's statement included something about issues that could not be cured. I believe that was a reference to donors not contributing as long as DB was in charge. That's something that cannot be cured.

[MoValley John]

Seeing this from the outside, but having a toe in the water by reading this site, I can't help but think that the real person to blame is Muma. I don't know what good or bad he has brought to the school, but everything that has transpired has been under his watch as the head of the university.

Maybe Muma brings a value to the school far greater than I can see by simply following a message board, but he has made a few political gaffes that have trickled over to this site. He doesn't seem to know that the city of Wichita leans a bit right while making decisions to further push the institution left. Also, I probably am missing it, but I don't see a vision from him. He seems to be a guy that has progressed up the ladder without really sticking his neck out.

Looking back, Muma was at the helm during the Marshall firing. Moreover, from what the media has provided, he was the catalyst for the Boatright contract raise and extension. Its also really easy to blame the AD for a lack of fundraising, but shouldn't Muma be right out in front of that as well? While Boatright probably needed to go, it seems to me that he was insulation protecting Muma from the athletic department.

I'm not judging Muma for being a liberal gay administrator, but could it be that he is not comfortable reaching out to a more conservative donor base? Could the firing of Boatright be Muma allowing the sword to fall on someone else?

I'm just wondering.

[BAShocker]

Good points and interesting thoughts.

[Atxshoxfan]

Seeing this from the outside, but having a toe in the water by reading this site, I can't help but think that the real person to blame is Muma. I don't know what good or bad he has brought to the school, but everything that has transpired has been under his watch as the head of the university.

Maybe Muma brings a value to the school far greater than I can see by simply following a message board, but he has made a few political gaffes that have trickled over to this site. He doesn't seem to know that the city of Wichita leans a bit right while making decisions to further push the institution left. Also, I probably am missing it, but I don't see a vision from him. He seems to be a guy that has progressed up the ladder without really sticking his neck out.

Looking back, Muma was at the helm during the Marshall firing. Moreover, from what the media has provided, he was the catalyst for the Boatright contract raise and extension. Its also really easy to blame the AD for a lack of fundraising, but shouldn't Muma be right out in front of that as well? While Boatright probably needed to go, it seems to me that he was insulation protecting Muma from the athletic department.

I'm not judging Muma for being a liberal gay administrator, but could it be that he is not comfortable reaching out to a more conservative donor base? Could the firing of Boatright be Muma allowing the sword to fall on someone else?

I'm just wondering.

I've blamed muma myself. Not sure why he gets a pass on his parts..DB contract especially.

[Dan]

DB is directly responsible for the athletic department. That includes sweeping Marshall’s issues under the rug until it was exposed publicly, which resulted in a crippling buyout. The promotion and overpayment of a new coach. The decline of ticket sales and booster support. The list goes on. Muma certainly should have been more involved, but he has an entire University to run. I’m sure athletics has elevated higher on his list of priorities.

[SubGod22]

I've blamed muma myself. Not sure why he gets a pass on his parts..DB contract especially.

Mostly because most of those things were set into motion by Golden and finalized shortly after Muma was named interim.

[Stickboy46]

Mostly because most of those things were set into motion by Golden and finalized shortly after Muma was named interim.

This is where i'm at. Muma took over in the middle of sh*t storm (Marshall, Covid, Ivanka etc) and really hasn't had too much time to really make major changes. Also as stated, he's responsible for the entire university, not just the Athletic Department. He has an athletic director so he doesn't have to be 100% hands in to it. He doesn't get a "pass" but more leniency than someone that has been directly over a struggling athletic department for 6+ years. He gets the chance to turn it around but if it fails .. then yes he's likely next on the block.

[Kung Wu]

He has been here long enough to know this is a conservative city. He also knows conservatives don't care that he is gay.

As long as he isn't sidetracked pushing some stupid woke agenda instead of focusing on the tech initiative, growing enrollment, and fixing the very visible athletics program then he will be fine. If he is pushing "inclusivity" personally, I could care less -- that's certainly his prerogative. Just keep it personal and don't manufacture a woke problem that doesn't exist professionally, or then it will be self sabotage.

So far he has been a good steward of the Bardo "way".

[Kel Varnsen]

When the most innocuous discussion involving teachers happens to come up, you can literally hear Bob's A-Fib kick into high gear.

This line killed me. It shouldn't have, but it did.

[Atxshoxfan]

Mostly because most of those things were set into motion by Golden and finalized shortly after Muma was named interim.

Ok, I'm not in the area and never really grasped the muma thing but I still don't understand how db's extension and all public records were hidden. I believe that was under his watch, was it under his orders?
If so maybe he will now understand the importance of keeping records public going forward.