Bring back I.B.

[Shock Top]

3G has rea$on$ he can’t/won’t say anything.

The university has similar rea$on$, but also because they know they’d have other rea$on$ to worry if the full accounting of what happens ever came out.

[Ashockalypse]

As I have discussed many, many times with very strong opinions on the matter, losing doesn't appeal to me either. I don't think anyone currently employed, administratively or in the bball program is worth half a ****. I'm not a Shocker Faithful dumbass. But Wichita State was not Gregg Marshall University, it is a program with deep tradition and history that would've allowed any coach with the right vision to be immensely successful here. It was not his firing that got us to where we are. It was the absolute incompetence that followed.

No, it was the firing. Obvious then and obvious now.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Let’s be careful, as much as everyone jumped on one side of an incident, others now are doing the same on the other.

Someone makes a bad decision. He is thrown out of practice. Talking **** on his way out the door Coach follows. No one witnessed what happened outside the door.

Someone makes a bad decision. Coach is suspended. No one witnesses what happened in Muma’s office.

We can all agree ADDB probably has worn out his welcome. We can agree that Muma isn’t Bardo. Not even close, and probably needs to go. There is enough that can be proven to support that.

[shoxlax]

The University definitely lost a lot when President Bardo passed. Muma is not what we needed.

Somewhere between the two of them was a President that alienated many and had his hand in much of this.

[Shockm]

Somewhere between the two of them was a President that alienated many and had his hand in much of this.

I was pointing out the difference in the two of them, where one knew what his ultimate "end" game was, and was decisive, and the other isn't. In certain times of history, true leadership is what is needed.

Another comparison/contrast that has similarities, is Churchill, who was not perfect as a leader (except for Britain at it's bleakest point), and Biden who is _________________. Well suffice it to say that G.B. and France might be speaking German.

[Kung Wu]

Somewhere between the two of them was a President that alienated many and had his hand in much of this.

[Atxshoxfan]

I was pointing out the difference in the two of them, where one knew what his ultimate "end" game was, and was decisive, and the other isn't. In certain times of history, true leadership is what is needed.

Another comparison/contrast that has similarities, is Churchill, who was not perfect as a leader (except for Britain at it's bleakest point), and Biden who is _________________. Well suffice it to say that G.B. and France might be speaking German.

While we speak Spanish.

[WuDrWu]

"If Marshall would've publicly apologized, taken a fairly hefty suspension and some kind of PR stunt anger management class, he would still be here." by Onegreatracer

My understanding, from a source very close to this situation, was that Gregg Marshall privately offered to do something like the above with former interim President Rick Muma and was turned down.

On a list of things I never wanted to hear....this is on the ****ing cover sheet. Given the OP, I take this as 100% factual unless disproven by President Muma.

[WuDrWu]

I also have a source very close to the situation and this is 100% accurate. GM "threw himself at the mercy of the court." He offered to do whatever the administration wanted, to stay at WSU. The investigation conclusions were something along the lines of either Boatright has to go or Marshall. And Muma chose Boatright.

Now proven without contradiction or question.

[WuDrWu]

And now I know I was directly lied to by ADDB. Awesome.

[ShockerFever]

And now I know I was directly lied to by ADDB. Awesome.

About as slimy as they come.

There needs to be a serious effort to get rid of that clown.

[shock]

And now I know I was directly lied to by ADDB. Awesome.

Oh ****.

[shock]

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

And yet nobody outside SN gives a damn. Sad…

[shock]

And yet nobody outside SN gives a damn. Sad…

No, I don’t think the list of boosters that supported Gregg is on Shockernet.