ECU at Wichita State Game Thread 3-5-22

[Singeril]

I think you are the first person on here who has said “ they played a lot of ball”… I’m assuming at a high level. Many I believe have not and maybe it shows a bit. In the understanding of the game and what is required. I’ve been merciless in private on Mo , and until he leaves he will drive me crazy, BUT he can do things on a court that a scant percent of people ever can.

True. He has the gifts that could make him a very strong presence. The aggravating part is when he doesn’t use those gifts well…and some of the issues are basic. And, as I said before, he hasn’t been used correctly at times,either.

[TheShocktocles]

Played a lot of ball. There is a time for everything. And, indeed, I hated to lose. And, that hate has made me successful in other things…so much about life I learned on the court.

It's a shame we have a shotage of mental health resources in this country. You need help.. No no put the bottle down.!!! Now is not the time for another shot of whiskey.. Go Shocks.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I’m great. Never better. Look at the level of discussion since my posts. Well above the negative Nancy lovin lack of depth and insight SF loves. (My hero)

Great work SN. Did a brief recap on the Fire Isaac Brown of what I think the real consensus is. A win is a win, and once we get to the conference tournament, it doesn’t matter how it looks. Either you have it and kee winning or don’t and lose. I hope the boys leave it all on the court.

[molly jabali]

True. He has the gifts that could make him a very strong presence. The aggravating part is when he doesn’t use those gifts well…and some of the issues are basic. And, as I said before, he hasn’t been used correctly at times,either.

I’ll ignore the mental health advertisement right above and ask you two questions… given the Shockers lack of quality depth ( or ANY depth) in the post , how would you play Mo different? And two… Qua….. has he grown into a role or should he have been playing more?
I’ll hang up and listen

[Dan]

Qua has grown the last 2 games. It’s no different than how it took Samaje a while to figure out how to score against better athletes. The true test for Qua is if this can carry over to better competition.

[Woodrow]

I guess I have not felt much of the lack of effort, but I’ve said numerous times there is not a depth of talent on this team, but I will say I’ve changed my tune on Porter… he’s the deal in the making

The lack of effort blocking out drives me crazy. Watch Mo when shots go up, and see how few times he blocks his guy off. He's not the only one. Welcome aboard on Porter.

[WstateU]

The lack of effort blocking out drives me crazy. Watch Mo when shots go up, and see how few times he blocks his guy off. He's not the only one. Welcome aboard on Porter.

I have terrifying dreams about Mo not passing out of double and triple teams. My wife watches the team from NE Kansas and said their big guy does a good job of passing out of those situations giving their shooters open three’s. Mo could increase our three point percentage significantly with a few simple outlet passes.

I loved his recent 9/9 free throw performance and he should be commended for it, but he frequently drives WstateU to the liquor cabinet… probably more than any player in the last 50 years. I shake my head so much my pea brain rattles.

[Atxshoxfan]

I have terrifying dreams about Mo not passing out of double and triple teams.

Wow, your dreams suck!
Try watching a little porn before hitting the sack.

[ShockingButTrue]

This is Porter’s team and to a lesser extent, Ricky’s.

It speaks for itself doesn't it? Nothing I can add to that, based on this years results.

If only the team had a legit post, eh?

[pinstripers]

Wow, your dreams suck!
Try watching a little porn before hitting the sack.

doesn't always work

[ShockingButTrue]

The lack of effort blocking out drives me crazy. Watch Mo when shots go up, and see how few times he blocks his guy off. He's not the only one. Welcome aboard on Porter.

Mo, lack of effort? But citing Porter's lazy a** in the same post? Porter literally quit on several plays yesterday. Now, for some of our more 'genteel' posters, I'm not knocking the kid. Porter's serviceable. Just telling the truth.

But really, what next, if WSU was in the Valley Porter would look like the next Magic? Why, they'd be running all over inferior teams like Loyola & the Bulldogs!

Speaking of which, Loyola and Drake should be a good game today, eh? Oh, wait...

[ShockTalk]

Mo, lack of effort? But citing Porter's lazy a** in the same post? Porter literally quit on several plays yesterday.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why Porter's 6'2" lazy a** has only 28 blocks in the 25 games he's played (leading the team) and tied for 3rd in rebounds per game.

[Singeril]

I’ll ignore the mental health advertisement right above and ask you two questions… given the Shockers lack of quality depth ( or ANY depth) in the post , how would you play Mo different? And two… Qua….. has he grown into a role or should he have been playing more?
I’ll hang up and listen

The mental health thing is just too stupid to respond to. Legend in his own mind.
But happy to have good discourse.
MO—-I’ll give you an example. Remember the K-State game? He was having what turned out to be about his first 10 minuets of the season during the first half. They fed him. He posted well. He was aggressively attacking the basket. Alas, the game plan changed and all that stopped…as did the Shocker offense. There was no inside presence after that and they were able to key in on TE even more…who had, like on many nights this year, an off shooting night. Not establishing that inside presence in a lot of games was a big issue.
In addition, Mo need to go, for those easier bunnies (and this goes for all the team) with a far more aggressive and strong presence. How many points did we leave on the floor yesterday simply by just not going up strong. It’s killed us all year.
MUCH work needs to be done in the weight room with our players. One only needs to look at the bodies of the players on the best teams. Our guys looks so physically immature against these schools. Upper body strength is needed by our big men. We get pushed around a lot.
I’ve never really thought MO bought into our system. Remember, he left the program once but then didn’t find a new home (or a place that wanted him all that much). He came back. He seemingly wanted to shoot from way outside…which certainly wasn’t a smart idea based on the results. Working to more of a presence inside is his only hope.
As far as Qua (who I haven’t had any comments about this year)….I think the step up to the “big leagues” has been tougher on him than on most players. His confidence has been lacking. He needs to build upon his successes…yes, I think he’s finally finding his role…and I hope we can build upon that. He may be one of the few who will be returning.

[Woodrow]

Mo, lack of effort? But citing Porter's lazy a** in the same post? Porter literally quit on several plays yesterday. Now, for some of our more 'genteel' posters, I'm not knocking the kid. Porter's serviceable. Just telling the truth.

But really, what next, if WSU was in the Valley Porter would look like the next Magic? Why, they'd be running all over inferior teams like Loyola & the Bulldogs!

Speaking of which, Loyola and Drake should be a good game today, eh? Oh, wait...

If you can't see Porters value to this team, there is nothing more I can say.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

If you can't see Porters value to this team, there is nothing more I can say.

Yep. PAINFULLY obvious all season and glaringly painfully obvious in this game. Some just don't get it. Grant is a nice D2 player. Udeze is a turnover machine who lacks the ability to evolve his game. Probably a nice MVC player.