NCAA At-Large Field Already Determined

[T.VuOP]

Why Murray State is a #7 seed?

[Heinro]

I am all for as many mids in the tourney as possible, but I really won't be that upset if Drexel doesn't get in. First off, from an eye test/resume comparison standpoint I don't see how ORU gets no respect while Drexel is probably right on the edge one way or another. During their win streak 10 of their wins were against sub 200 competition and they only played 4 teams in the top 100. Their RPI is currently 67.

If that were us or another Valley school in that same position, I'd guarantee you we'd be out. The east coast bias drives me nuts. No other mid outside of the Colonial would even be in the discussion, but maybe they earned it with 2 final 4 appearances.

Now am I all for ORU, Iona, MTSU, Marshall, and Drexel being in over most of the bubble mids but for whatever reason the committee gives them no respect. How the committee can favor Cal or Washington who are in the pathetic Pac 12, as witnessed by Colorado (a possible Thursday night team if they were still in the Big 12) winning their auto, or Mississippi St who decided to take February off, or Northwestern who is 5-13 vs top 100 competition, is beyond me. When you constantly get shots at top 50 competition or at least have the opportunity to schedule top 50 competition in your noncon and you still have 0 or 1 top 50 wins then you deserve to be out.

I am thoroughly disappointed that the above mids didn't take care of business in their conference tourneys. Between them and the other nonBCS schools that took care of business I was expecting near half of the teams in the Round of 32 to be nonbcs. I also find it deeply disappointing now that we lost to ISUR. The 13/14 seeds are much weaker now than they were a week ago.

Anyway, heres to us getting a good draw and avoiding Portland tomorrow.

[WillieJeffJeffries]

One game comparisons? Really?? Yah, they only went on a 19-game winning streak. No big deal. Only a bad team would end up winning 19 in a row.

Florida lost by 14 to Georgia a few weeks ago. They beat a 2-14 South Carolina team on their home floor by only 8. Does that mean they're not that good either? Please.


I don't wanna face any quality mid-major who knows how to win, has won lots of games, and has a chip on its shoulder with something to prove, i.e. Drexel, i.e. VCU, i.e. Long Beach State.

So you would feel better if the NCAA matched WSU v Kentucky in RD 1???.....Maybe the NCAA should just advance WSU to the final game so they dont have to play anyone. Ive seen Drexel play they are not a great team and a team WSU would beat 8 of 10, Ill take those odds. Its tourny time, ur going to have to beat quality teams to advance.

[billybud]

It really is all in the "match ups"...How many times have we seen a team full of "bigs", playing in a league that features NBA height 4s and 5s, get run off the court by a smaller, quicker team?

Or a team with a relaxed perimeter defense get bombed by a hot three point shooting team?

[tshox]

Drexel is not that good. They only beat Bradley by 5 points at home.

Your logic sucks------and that's for real.

[Ta Town Shocker]

Looking at Drexel's wins/losses I don't see any reason they should be in the tournament. They have 0 quality road or neutral site wins. Cleveland State may have been quality at one point in the season but not now. Drexel hasn't beat any tournament team with the exception of VCU which they had a their chance to beat in the conference tournament. Heck they couldn't even beat Norfolk State who is projected to be a 16 seed on a neutral floor. I don't buy into their argument at all.

[shocktown]

Here's a sneak peak...

1 - Kentucky, Syracuse, North Carolina, Missouri

2 - Kansas, Ohio State, Michigan State, Duke

3 - Baylor, Marquette, Michigan, Georgetown

4 - Wisconsin, Indiana, Florida State, Louisville

5 - Wichita State, Florida, Vanderbilt, Temple

6 - UNLV, New Mexico, Notre Dame, San Diego State

7 - Cincinnati, Murray State, Creighton, Memphis

8 - St. Mary's, Gonzaga, Iowa State, Kansas State

9 - Purdue, Connecticut, St. Louis, Alabama

10 - Virginia, West Virginia, Southern Mississippi, California

11 - Harvard, BYU, Colorado State, Xavier

12 - Texas, Virginia Commonwealth, South Florida (Play-In), North Carolina State (Play-In), Seton Hall (Play-In), Drexel (Play-In)

13 - Long Beach State, Colorado, Belmont, New Mexico State

14 - South Dakota State, Davidson, Akron, Montana

15 - Lehigh, Loyola-MD, Detroit, UNC Asheville

16 - Lamar, Long Island, Vermont (Play-In), Norfolk State (Play-In), Mississippi Valley State (Play-In), Western Kentucky (Play-In)

Last 6 In:
Xavier
Texas
South Florida
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
Drexel

First 6 Out:
Mississippi State
Washington
Miami-FL
Arizona
Tennessee
Northwestern

OK, so that isn't the committee's official list, but it's my best projection as of right now.

JH4P---the teams ahead of us that I think are most over valued are all on the 3 line. Marquette and G'town really benefited from an unbalanced schedule. Also, Michigan looks like they don't merit being that high. Do these teams benefit from conference affiliation quotient?

[shockmonster]

Here's a sneak peak...

1 - Kentucky, Syracuse, North Carolina, Missouri

2 - Kansas, Ohio State, Michigan State, Duke

3 - Baylor, Marquette, Michigan, Georgetown

4 - Wisconsin, Indiana, Florida State, Louisville

5 - Wichita State, Florida, Vanderbilt, Temple

6 - UNLV, New Mexico, Notre Dame, San Diego State

7 - Cincinnati, Murray State, Creighton, Memphis

8 - St. Mary's, Gonzaga, Iowa State, Kansas State

9 - Purdue, Connecticut, St. Louis, Alabama

10 - Virginia, West Virginia, Southern Mississippi, California

11 - Harvard, BYU, Colorado State, Xavier

12 - Texas, Virginia Commonwealth, South Florida (Play-In), North Carolina State (Play-In), Seton Hall (Play-In), Drexel (Play-In)

13 - Long Beach State, Colorado, Belmont, New Mexico State

14 - South Dakota State, Davidson, Akron, Montana

15 - Lehigh, Loyola-MD, Detroit, UNC Asheville

16 - Lamar, Long Island, Vermont (Play-In), Norfolk State (Play-In), Mississippi Valley State (Play-In), Western Kentucky (Play-In)

Last 6 In:
Xavier
Texas
South Florida
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
Drexel

First 6 Out:
Mississippi State
Washington
Miami-FL
Arizona
Tennessee
Northwestern

OK, so that isn't the committee's official list, but it's my best projection as of right now.

St. Bonaventure may be the A-10 automatic. Does that mean that Xavier is out? What is their resume like?

[vtshocker]

before the tournament started lunardi had them in so i would say that they are in

[Rlh04d]

One game comparisons? Really?? Yah, they only went on a 19-game winning streak. No big deal. Only a bad team would end up winning 19 in a row.

Florida lost by 14 to Georgia a few weeks ago. They beat a 2-14 South Carolina team on their home floor by only 8. Does that mean they're not that good either? Please.


I don't wanna face any quality mid-major who knows how to win, has won lots of games, and has a chip on its shoulder with something to prove, i.e. Drexel, i.e. VCU, i.e. Long Beach State.

Florida is a bad example, because I agree with your point, but UF is not that good. They're collapsing down the stretch. Since one of their key players got injured, they've won one of their last five games. And that one win was a 3 point win over an Alabama team that is missing their best player. I would love to see UF right now. They are seriously overrated, and if the committee doesn't take that injury into account for seeding, they are prime upset material.

[shockmonster]

before the tournament started lunardi had them in so i would say that they are in

Television broadcasters didn't have them as a lock.

[newshock1234]

Give me 12 seeded Texas please