Where do we go from here

[Shockm]

This ... The argument shouldn't be would we be better with Porter or Gilbert... If Gilbert came back we wouldn't have Qua... And I doubt there is any argument that Gilbert isn't better than Qua right now. Right now when Porter goes out we struggle. I'd love to be able To swap them in and out

If Porter played the minutes he is playing now, and Gilbert played the minutes Qua plays, I’d have no problem with it. However, in your scenario, Imo, Gilbert would expect to be the man just as last year. He’s not good enough to play more minutes than Porter.

[shock]

Porter>AG

AG was a good leader tho

[Shock Top]

New Starting Lineup:

1 - CP
2 - RCIV
3 - DD
4 - KP
5 - MU

TE - can have a come to Jesus moment and learn to be effective off the bench. I mean, James Harden used to come of the bench.
JP - becomes the backup 5.
MJ - energy guy off the bench. If he starts taking step back 3s, he’s yanked. Love his energy, but it has to be controlled.
QG - is only played to give CP 5-8 minutes of rest a game. If he has to play more than 10 minutes a games, that is not a good sign.
CJ - should be given chances here and there, just in case they have to rely on him at some important moment in the future.

[Shockm]

New Starting Lineup:

1 - CP
2 - RCIV
3 - DD
4 - KP
5 - MU

TE - can have a come to Jesus moment and learn to be effective off the bench. I mean, James Harden used to come of the bench.
JP - becomes the backup 5.
MJ - energy guy off the bench. If he starts taking step back 3s, he’s yanked. Love his energy, but it has to be controlled. QG - is only played to give CP 5-8 minutes of rest a game. If he has to play more than 10 minutes a games, that is not a good sign.
CJ - should be given chances here and there, just in case they have to rely on him at some important moment in the future.

I disagree with your starting lineup. However, it's a non-issue because IB doesn't change his starting lineup(even though he should shake things up like example a MLB Manager moves his #2 hitter back to #7 when he's in a slump, and the team is losing). To me, though, this isn't the game to shake things up, when IB has refused to shake things up when we've lost multiple games in a row.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

lol

Ya, not sure what game this joker was watching. Unbelievable. Lol.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

This ... The argument shouldn't be would we be better with Porter or Gilbert... If Gilbert came back we wouldn't have Qua... And I doubt there is any argument that Gilbert isn't better than Qua right now. Right now when Porter goes out we struggle. I'd love to be able To swap them in and out

Moot point. AG couldn't make grades to be eligible so he couldn't have come back if he wanted to.

[Shock Top]

I disagree with your starting lineup. However, it's a non-issue because IB doesn't change his starting lineup(even though he should shake things up like example a MLB Manager moves his #2 hitter back to #7 when he's in a slump, and the team is losing). To me, though, this isn't the game to shake things up, when IB has refused to shake things up when we've lost multiple games in a row.

Why do you disagree though?

RCIV has been showing more offensive ability than anyone else on the court.
DD still starts because although the can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat, he still plays solid defense.
KP at the 4 stretches the floor for CP to dribble drive and opens up the lane for RCIV to create inside.

My reasoning behind the change.

[Dan]

We need to surround Tyson with other guys that can score. Having JP and, to a lesser extent, Dex on the court with him, plus a hesitant shooting Porter does not help. If other guys made teams pay for doubling Tyson, it would open up Tyson to actually get some open looks. Therefore, you gotta start Kenny at the 5 and Ricky at the 4. Those 2 are threats to score and would make it easier on Dex, and then it trickles down to Tyson.

As for Morris, he's just too easy to gameplan for since he has zero range and will turn it over if you make him dribble.

[ShockTalk]

As for Morris, he's just too easy to gameplan for since he has zero range and will turn it over if you make him dribble.

So, who has to make him dribble? He'll do that all by his lonesome.

[Maizerunner08]

I’ll tell you where we AREN’T going…SMU

[ShockingButTrue]

Hell, I wanted more of Porter last year. When he was healthyish, the team ran better with him than AG. AG was constantly criticized last year, and rightfully so, for dribbling too much and being selfish and playing way too much hero ball. That is exactly the opposite of what this team needs, and is not what CP is.

Good lord. No wonder you politic for more Adibbe and less Mo. And another thing, just because you flaunt your basketball ignorance is no reason to be insecure when someone debates such brazen stupidity. It has nothing to do with you as a person. This is a sports talk board. It happens a lot.

Now, back to the topic: Yeah, WSU's offense is running a lot smoother this year with Porter at the point. And, man, remember all of those fast breaks last year that looked like a best of Keystone Cops high-lite reel? Me either, because that's this year. What next, last Saturday aside the b12 is significantly better than the SEC? Oh, wait...

[SubGod22]

Good lord. No wonder you politic for more Adibbe and less Mo. And another thing, just because you flaunt your basketball ignorance is no reason to be insecure when someone debates such brazen stupidity. It has nothing to do with you as a person. This is a sports talk board. It happens a lot.

Now, back to the topic: Yeah, WSU's offense is running a lot smoother this year with Porter at the point. And, man, remember all of those fast breaks last year that looked like a best of Keystone Cops high-lite reel? Me either, because that's this year. What next, last Saturday aside the b12 is significantly better than the SEC? Oh, wait...

I love how you pull stuff out of your ass and take comments way out of context and present them as fact. Talk about brazen stupidity and ignorance.

[ShockingButTrue]

Porter>AG

AG was a good leader tho

Yep, WSU's offense is running a lot smoother with the current point guard. Break outs too. And man, the Shocks are just so much better this year in close games than last year. Are you satisfied?

What next genius, start KP at the 5 because they're not getting anything from that position? Oh, wait...

[ShockingButTrue]

I love how you pull stuff out of your ass and take comments way out of context and present them as fact. Talk about brazen stupidity and ignorance.

You're delusional too. How long have you had that problem?

Again, don't take it personal when someone debates some of your uninformed basketball opinions. It's not an attack on you, really Sub. You said AG didn't give anything to the Shocks last year but "dribble around" right? Can we agree on that, and then proceed with the facts from there? Or, would you rather engage in infantile name calling?

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Yep, WSU's offense is running a lot smoother with the current point guard. Break outs too. And man, the Shocks are just so much better this year in close games than last year. Are you satisfied?

What next genius, start KP at the 5 because they're not getting anything from that position? Oh, wait...

Yep, they are getting so much from Mo at the 5. I mean he is the best shooter when he is 2 feet from the basket and nobody is guarding him. His defense is impenetrable. Really excelling at not turning the ball over and passing out to the open man when he is double teamed also...oh wait...